telescoping highway bars.

[RAZOR]

i have a great idea for highway bars that would mount on the frame just behind the radiator. and have a telescoping peg that would extend out.i have
drew some pictures,the thing is how would i get these things made
would i have to go though an envention company or patent company.
i do not have the equipment to make them so could i give a place the
pictures and they could make it for me,and how i profit off of that?
..............confused and stuck.................

[M@Man]

I'd patent it first, plans and designs are what a patent office needs, you wouldn't have to build one first, and one of those patent places can help.
It is a cool idea, the title of your thread is what drew me here in the first place.

M@

[RAZOR]

I'd patent it first, plans and designs are what a patent office needs, you wouldn't have to build one first, and one of those patent places can help.
It is a cool idea, the title of your thread is what drew me here in the first place.

M@

do you need money to patent?? money is a big issue married and one child
too many bills,roughing it right now.

[M@Man]

do you need money to patent?? money is a big issue married and one child
too many bills,roughing it right now.
The cost and quality of a design patent application is driven by the number and quality of drawings describing the applied for design. Good patent drawings can be obtained at a price of from about $85 per sheet for average quality drawings to about $120 per sheet for excellent quality drawings. In a design case, don't scrimp on the drawings because they are the heart of the case. The attorney prepared portion of the case includes a written description of the drawings, and a single standard claim. The filing fee is $145 for a small entity (an inventor with less than 500 employees). The only other cost is the attorney's fee for his time in preparing the patent application, which is typically spent in drafting the specification, contacting the draftsman to instruct him on how to prepare the drawings, and preparing the papers for execution of the patent application. Because of the relatively slight time demands, most attorneys will simply charge a fixed fee for this sort of case in the range of $400 to $600.

Assuming an average attorney's fee is $500, two sheets of high quality drawings and filing fee of $145, and express mailing charges, an inventor should be able to file a design patent application for less than $1000.

(that's the best I could find on short notice.)

M@

[RAZOR]

The cost and quality of a design patent application is driven by the number and quality of drawings describing the applied for design. Good patent drawings can be obtained at a price of from about $85 per sheet for average quality drawings to about $120 per sheet for excellent quality drawings. In a design case, don't scrimp on the drawings because they are the heart of the case. The attorney prepared portion of the case includes a written description of the drawings, and a single standard claim. The filing fee is $145 for a small entity (an inventor with less than 500 employees). The only other cost is the attorney's fee for his time in preparing the patent application, which is typically spent in drafting the specification, contacting the draftsman to instruct him on how to prepare the drawings, and preparing the papers for execution of the patent application. Because of the relatively slight time demands, most attorneys will simply charge a fixed fee for this sort of case in the range of $400 to $600.

Assuming an average attorney's fee is $500, two sheets of high quality drawings and filing fee of $145, and express mailing charges, an inventor should be able to file a design patent application for less than $1000.

(that's the best I could find on short notice.)

M@
thank i will have to print that.
anybody else with ideas?????

[RAZOR]

another question would it be against the law if i did find sombody to make them and sell them just for some side cash without a patent.

[Mr.Sinister]

No , however you could lose your rights to the product if somone see's and copys and patents your design first . I believe that the patent supersedes the final product in most cases . I could be wrong .

[RAZOR]

No , however you could lose your rights to the product if somone see's and copys and patents your design first . I believe that the patent supersedes the final product in most cases . I could be wrong .

THANKS-approved--i guess the old saying is true
""it takes money to make money"""thats why the rich get richer and the poor
stay poor.--FUCK--

[Mr.Sinister]

I understand . I got a wife and 2 kids . Day care $1400 a month . Plus diapers and clothes and food and everyting else . Not to mention car/bike payment , rent , student loans 75k+ , insurance , medical bills and credit cards . If you are not carefull you can breed yourself into poverty .

[Tangledj]

Im not sure but cant you still draw everything up ,and then put it in an evelope
and mail it to yourself from the post office,and then never open it.This used to work.And I wouldnt think the design would be so crazy that it would take a super special drawing.Just detail it best you can.I would try this,or call a patent office and see.Damn sure dont call an attorney,there gonna tell you that wont work cause they aint gettin no kick back from it! lol
Id run with,and make what I could till someone tried to steel it,or untill you could afford to pay all the pencil pushers so they could get they're part.If you could convince a good metal shop that it's a money maker,maybe they would foot the bill on the patent.

[RAZOR]

I understand . I got a wife and 2 kids . Day care $1400 a month . Plus diapers and clothes and food and everyting else . Not to mention car/bike payment , rent , student loans 75k+ , insurance , medical bills and credit cards . If you are not carefull you can breed yourself into poverty .
same here day care 560 month 2-car payments, bike payment ,credit card
apartment rent,student loan,bank loan,insurance on all three vehicles,no to
mention utilities,cable i could go on..and on.

[RAZOR]

Im not sure but cant you still draw everything up ,and then put it in an evelope
and mail it to yourself from the post office,and then never open it.This used to work.And I wouldnt think the design would be so crazy that it would take a super special drawing.Just detail it best you can.I would try this,or call a patent office and see.Damn sure dont call an attorney,there gonna tell you that wont work cause they aint gettin no kick back from it! lol
Id run with,and make what I could till someone tried to steel it,or untill you could afford to pay all the pencil pushers so they could get they're part.If you could convince a good metal shop that it's a money maker,maybe they would foot the bill on the patent.
thanks approved--the pictures are accual size with demension and lenghths
it is drafted out.. i took intrest in my drafting class in highschool that was prolly
the only thing i learned ---top view,side view