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[SmokeShowin]

Hey Clint, did you hear about this? Heard about it at a meeting tonight. The video of the actual incident is unbelievable. They make everybody else look bad.

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?sectionId=46&id=47617

[AirportFF]

Kentland has been the center of controversy before. They pad their run counts to get more funding. And actually were listed as the busiest FD in the country a couple years back. If they roll an engine, truck, and tanker to a call. They fill the paperwork out to make it seem like 3 separate incidents, thereby padding their run count.
They rolled their brand new ladder a couple years ago responding to a false alarm.

There has been many documented cases of there egos getting in the way of the job.

Be interesting to see how this one shakes out.

[SmokeShowin]

:stunned:

Figure you might like to check this out too:

http://massfiretrucks.com/

This guy has pictures of trucks from every city and town in Massachusetts. I found it while I was looking for pictures of a local departments truck that I had seen while going to work. Our trucks are listed under SEEKONK.

Ths is the truck I was looking for. It looks like a heavy rescue, but it's actually an engine company. Beautiful truck. http://massfiretrucks.com/Foxboro_Engine_22_2005.jpg

[Free Spirit]

That's just plain nuts! My brother-in-law is a retired Chief with 30 years in the fire service. Both of his sons and my own son are also on area volunteer departments. They have a lot of disagreements with the local paid departments. But when it comes time to into a structure it's one team, one job. And besides... you jsut don't turn off someones air supply! If it can be proven that's what happened and who did it, that person should be charged with attempted murder.

Sorry for the rant, but that shit just frosts my ass!:pissed:

[SmokeShowin]

We're lucky here. Most of the permanent guys get along with us and vice versa. Even so, if there are personality issues (so to speak), when there is a call we are all there to do the same job.

[AirportFF]

http://jimbakun.com/massive_blaze_hits_newburgh.htm

This is the last big job I worked. Been mosly smaller structures since then. These pics were taken after all the volly companies arrived. We got there as the FAST team and before I could get out of the engine Newburgh's Chief needed us to make entry in the loading dock area. We got the door open and were about 5-10 feet in the door with the line and the camera and SAW the flashover coming. We bailed out the door and off the dock as it rolled out and over our heads. There's a couple pics of the door I'm talking about on the link above. I have my helmet from that one hanging in our family room since it had to be taken out of service.
It was an auto parts warehouse. You'd be surprised how big of a boom gas shocks make when the cook off, and those little fucking window struts too.

[AirportFF]

That's just plain nuts! My brother-in-law is a retired Chief with 30 years in the fire service. Both of his sons and my own son are also on area volunteer departments. They have a lot of disagreements with the local paid departments. But when it comes time to into a structure it's one team, one job. And besides... you jsut don't turn off someones air supply! If it can be proven that's what happened and who did it, that person should be charged with attempted murder.

Sorry for the rant, but that shit just frosts my ass!:pissed:

We have the same problem with the Town of Newburgh volly companies. They WILL NOT call us no matter how much shit is hitting the fan. At some point you have to put your departments pride aside and think of the safety of your community. It'll take somebody getting hurt or killed for those idiots to change.

[SmokeShowin]

http://jimbakun.com/massive_blaze_hits_newburgh.htm

This is the last big job I worked. Been mosly smaller structures since then. These pics were taken after all the volly companies arrived. We got there as the FAST team and before I could get out of the engine Newburgh's Chief needed us to make entry in the loading dock area. We got the door open and were about 5-10 feet in the door with the line and the camera and SAW the flashover coming. We bailed out the door and off the dock as it rolled out and over our heads. There's a couple pics of the door I'm talking about on the link above. I have my helmet from that one hanging in our family room since it had to be taken out of service.
It was an auto parts warehouse. You'd be surprised how big of a boom gas shocks make when the cook off, and those little fucking window struts too.

Wild pics Clint. Is that you on the left in the fifth pic from the bottom?

[AirportFF]

Wild pics Clint. Is that you on the left in the fifth pic from the bottom?

Yea, with guy sitting on the ground. That's Mac, he's our official cook. He looks like a cross between uncle fester and minnie me

[AirportFF]

As soon as we ditched our interior attack I ditched my air pack. Just in case you were gonna yell at me for not having it on.

[SmokeShowin]

As soon as we ditched our interior attack I ditched my air pack. Just in case you were gonna yell at me for not having it on.


Nah. I've done the same thing.

[Free Spirit]

Damn Clint, those are some some wild pix. My nephew has his helmet from his first "big bang". A meth lab in the basement of a house he was in went off and blew him out a window. His scorched bunker gear is on display in their training room. Oddly enough, a lot of kids that show up wanting to be cadets see that set of gear and change their minds. I guess it makes the whole thing a bit too real.

[AirportFF]

Damn Clint, those are some some wild pix. My nephew has his helmet from his first "big bang". A meth lab in the basement of a house he was in went off and blew him out a window. His scorched bunker gear is on display in their training room. Oddly enough, a lot of kids that show up wanting to be cadets see that set of gear and change their minds. I guess it makes the whole thing a bit too real.

What pissed us off that day was that Mac had just started dinner

[SmokeShowin]

What pissed us off that day was that Mac had just started dinner

Isn't that the way it always happens? It never failed back when we used to work it the stations.

[pegscraper]

KUDO'S to you guys that do this work professionally! Very important work. BULLSHIT to the competetivness that happens. Every one of you guys is risking his life trying to save others and there is no room for jealousness. Good way to get someone killed

[AirportFF]

professionally!

Pegs, That's really the wrong word. I know several FDNY guys that are suppose to be the best of the best of the best that I wouldn't trust at a dumpster fire. And then I know a lot of vollies that I would trust with my life.
Some guys are in it for glory, some are in it for the community, and some just do it.

The ones that are in it for the glory are the ones that get you killed.

[pegscraper]

Pegs, That's really the wrong word. I know several FDNY guys that are suppose to be the best of the best of the best that I wouldn't trust at a dumpster fire. And then I know a lot of vollies that I would trust with my life.
Some guys are in it for glory, some are in it for the community, and some just do it.

The ones that are in it for the glory are the ones that get you killed.

I guess I was refering to professional acting peeps. In my home town, the voluteer fire dept was one of the best in the state for a while! Voluteers doing and acting professional. Anyway, thanks for what you do!

[Shadow]

Where I work the building is located on a city line. It runs right up thru the middle of the parking lot and slices thru the building.
We had a call one day and the fire department from the other side of the parking lot was dispatched. He got there all pissed off saying that we should have called the other department. He refused to check out the situation and had his men stay on the truck until the OTHER city truck showed up and then they left.

[AirportFF]

Where I work the building is located on a city line. It runs right up thru the middle of the parking lot and slices thru the building.
We had a call one day and the fire department from the other side of the parking lot was dispatched. He got there all pissed off saying that we should have called the other department. He refused to check out the situation and had his men stay on the truck until the OTHER city truck showed up and then they left.

That happened recently in Ohio, I think. A paid dept was dispatched to a working fire. They arrived and realized it wasn't their district and refused to help until the vollies who's district it was showed up. I works both ways. I can understand the chief's position. If he puts his guys to work and someone gets hurt. He may be held liable for it, for operating out of his area.
But, you can't just sit there and watch somones house burn to the ground either. There's often way too many politics involved in this job.

[SmokeShowin]

Check this story out. It (no pun intended) burns my ass.

http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=77714

That's one night I won't forget. I was getting ready to go in to dispatch the overnight shift when that fire happened. Had my scanner on and heard our engine and rescue get sent to West Warwick for a structure fire, est Warwick is about a 1/2 hour drive from here! Me and the guy I was working with were listening to the whole thing on the intercity radios. It didn't hit me how bad it was until our chief called and said to get a hold of state emergency management and tell them they needed at least 50 body bags.
It's a good thing that I was laid off from my full time job at the time, because if I had been working I would have had some extra cash and would have gone to that concert. My friend Jen who lives around the corner from where the fire was even called me the next morning to make sure I hadn't gone.

[AirportFF]

We were working watching that disaster unfold. It's unreal how stupid that promiter was.

[Blueshadow]

Good pics, AFF. I can relate. I was a volunteer Captain/Fire Fighter/EMT for 11 years. I also was on the Haz/Mat team and Airport Crash/Fire/Rescue team. Then I went from being a hero to an asshole. (Reserve Police Officer/Captain) I've been doing that for the last eighteen years.

[AirportFF]

Good pics, AFF. I can relate. I was a volunteer Captain/Fire Fighter/EMT for 11 years. I also was on the Haz/Mat team and Airport Crash/Fire/Rescue team. Then I went from being a hero to an asshole. (Reserve Police Officer/Captain) I've been doing that for the last eighteen years.
I was a volly for several years, County Hazmat team. The whole thing. What drove me away from the vollies was too many idiots getting shitfaced in the lounge and then driving a rig. I got fed up and left.

[SmokeShowin]

I was a volly for several years, County Hazmat team. The whole thing. What drove me away from the vollies was too many idiots getting shitfaced in the lounge and then driving a rig. I got fed up and left.

The kid who's my supervisor at my day job is on the dept with me. I warned him that four people have gone to the Lt. and said they smelled booze on him. That's just plain stupid. If I have even one drink, I won't go to the station let alone get on the truck.

[Blueshadow]

Yeah, we had some like that, too. That's part of the reason I left.

[SmokeShowin]

I love it. He'll give me shit at work cuz he's my boss, then I remind him that if he don't cut the shit he's gonna be humpin alot of hose. Fuckin newbie! hahaha!