No Class on Base

[FrankZ]

Just had to post my Dissapointment on the Latest News here at The Sub-Base :pissed:
Now any of you who Ride on Millitary instalations Know we all have to go through a Gov't Requierd Saftey Course Provided by the Base to get a Sticker to get on, Now it seems Due to some Funding Issue the Base will not be providing this Course and to get the Cert out in town you have to take the "Beginner Course" which is the only one they acknowledge which will cost me $185.00 plus due to the Demand only avaiable openings aren't untill the End of May This Really Burns my ass:madani: I've been Riding and Holding a License Since 1973 When my Dad and I went through the Riding Class Together, And to have to do this over again instead of getting some advanced saftey Training is pissing me off not to mention the Cost.

[BamaKC]

Frankz,
come to Alabama for the course 45 bucks and one of the best in the country is in Montivello, AL

[NAL]

i got the MSF cert. free, base paid for it, i got a letter from the safety office telling me what i had to do, somebody had told me the same thing you posted, i think that if it is a base requirement they should pay for it, something else you can do is talk to the unit resourse advisor and ask him who pays for it, the unit or the base and then wait until either one get some money, i had a friend that had a permit in the mean time until he went to the MSF class

[FrankZ]

Thanx Guys, Nal I'd go to the Unit Resorce Advisor if I we're in, I'm DOD Civy. Hell in 1975 the safety course was 2hrs. long when I was in the Corps down in North Carolina, I'll have to check with DMV to see if they give some sort of Cert for the Years I've been Riding that the Base will Accept. Or just Pony up the cash and do the Cones all over again, I was hoping for something better

[AirportFF]

Just had to post my Dissapointment on the Latest News here at The Sub-Base :pissed:
Now any of you who Ride on Millitary instalations Know we all have to go through a Gov't Requierd Saftey Course Provided by the Base to get a Sticker to get on, Now it seems Due to some Funding Issue the Base will not be providing this Course and to get the Cert out in town you have to take the "Beginner Course" which is the only one they acknowledge which will cost me $185.00 plus due to the Demand only avaiable openings aren't untill the End of May This Really Burns my ass:madani: I've been Riding and Holding a License Since 1973 When my Dad and I went through the Riding Class Together, And to have to do this over again instead of getting some advanced saftey Training is pissing me off not to mention the Cost.

Just do what I did. Go to pass and ID with your car reg and stuff. Tell them you had to replace the windshield. And you'll get a new sticker, slap that on your bike.

[FrankZ]

I'd try that Airport But I make my Living Driving on the Base Plus I Don't want to be the First Biker to test the New POP-UP Security Barrier, They had some angry First Class Try it with his F250 Wasn't very good OUCH!!!!

[pegscraper]

I'd try that Airport But I make my Living Driving on the Base Plus I Don't want to be the First Biker to test the New POP-UP Security Barrier, They had some angry First Class Try it with his F250 Wasn't very good OUCH!!!!

Would they except proof that you took the class before? (If you still have proof)

[FrankZ]

Back then they didn't give you anything but a slip you took to security showing you had the class, Ya gave'em the Slip and they gave you the Stickers

[ames77us]

Just had to post my Dissapointment on the Latest News here at The Sub-Base :pissed:
Now any of you who Ride on Millitary instalations Know we all have to go through a Gov't Requierd Saftey Course Provided by the Base to get a Sticker to get on, Now it seems Due to some Funding Issue the Base will not be providing this Course and to get the Cert out in town you have to take the "Beginner Course" which is the only one they acknowledge which will cost me $185.00 plus due to the Demand only avaiable openings aren't untill the End of May This Really Burns my ass:madani: I've been Riding and Holding a License Since 1973 When my Dad and I went through the Riding Class Together, And to have to do this over again instead of getting some advanced saftey Training is pissing me off not to mention the Cost.

Hey bro you need to come out to FT. Campbell, KY the course out here is free also. They figured if they were gonna protect the soldiers they would help us out and pay for the course.

[FrankZ]

Thanx ames77uss, I'm gonna call the Dragon Ride School and see if they give an endorsement on thier ERC class that equals the Basic Class, the ERC is one day and $85.oo it may be my only option if I want to Ride to Work.

[FrankZ]

:thumbsup: Well it seems that the Powers that Be have come to there senses and decided to Hold classes on Base after all and with a Format Change Experienced Riders Only Have to do a 1 Day Class instead of the NOOB 3 Day Class First Day of registration is WENSDAY I am So There :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[ames77us]

:thumbsup: Well it seems that the Powers that Be have come to there senses and decided to Hold classes on Base after all and with a Format Change Experienced Riders Only Have to do a 1 Day Class instead of the NOOB 3 Day Class First Day of registration is WENSDAY I am So There :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Hey sounds good man. We have the one day class over here also for the experienced riders. I took it a few years ago and it wasnt too bad really! Good luck and let us know how it goes bro! :jamming:

[FrankZ]

Well registerd today gotta take the Basic Course but it's all good infact it's designated an alternate work site what's better than that a Free Course and getting Paid Hell Yeah!!!

[ames77us]

How long is the basic course bro? I know over here its like 3 days. That will rock getting three days paid to take a motorcycle course!

[FrankZ]

Only 2 days here, someone had said I had to take leave but on checking further it was deemed an alternate worksite because it is a Base requirement not a requirement of the State as I've already passed thier Test (1973) and Have a License

[TinyUFB]

Frankz,
come to Alabama for the course 45 bucks and one of the best in the country is in Montivello, AL

Bama

Is the certificate transferrable from state to state?

Tiny

[FrankZ]

Tiny from what the Saftey guys told me this is the Motorcycle Saftey Foundation Course that they offer here on the Base it's good Nation Wide

[FrankZ]

Well I guess they were wrong just checked the site and some States don't recognize the MSF course here's the Link http://www.msf-usa.org/

[BamaKC]

Bama

Is the certificate transferrable from state to state?

Tiny

Don't know about all states but this course is recognized in GA, FL and SC for sure. I was jesting about it, but realisticly, most safety certs are more for insurance cost reduction than qualifcation for license, so I'd guess that most insurance companies would recognize it for that purpose regardless of the state you're from.

[FrankZ]

Here in CT you can get your License by completing a recognized saftey course, my StepDaughter did it this past summer, do the course take the written exam at DMV show your certificate, no ride test get your motorcycle License

[TinyUFB]

Here in CT you can get your License by completing a recognized saftey course, my StepDaughter did it this past summer, do the course take the written exam at DMV show your certificate, no ride test get your motorcycle License

Nebraska is the same way. I took that MSF course and always wondered if it was valid in other states, or if you had to take the course over again.

Well I shouldn't say its that way for all Nebraska. In the rural areas you hop on a bike and they follow you around the block and that's about it. In the metro areas, which are few and far between in NE, you either have to take the DMV course or the MSF course.

Tiny

[FrankZ]

The MSF course is the one the Navy recognizes so it's good at all thier bases just show your card and get your stickers

[FrankZ]

Passed da Class with Flyin Colors Get my Sticker Tomorrow and with the Price of Gas Now I need to be ridin the Bike :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[BamaKC]

Congrats guy... know this has been a pain in the ars for you....

[FrankZ]

Thanx BamaKC I'll tell ya that MSF course is one helluva Test but our Instructors Tony & Mark we're Great , Good Guy's and good Riders

[Purpitrator]

Just had to post my Dissapointment on the Latest News here at The Sub-Base :pissed:
Now any of you who Ride on Millitary instalations Know we all have to go through a Gov't Requierd Saftey Course Provided by the Base to get a Sticker to get on, Now it seems Due to some Funding Issue the Base will not be providing this Course and to get the Cert out in town you have to take the "Beginner Course" which is the only one they acknowledge which will cost me $185.00 plus due to the Demand only avaiable openings aren't untill the End of May This Really Burns my ass:madani: I've been Riding and Holding a License Since 1973 When my Dad and I went through the Riding Class Together, And to have to do this over again instead of getting some advanced saftey Training is pissing me off not to mention the Cost.THAT SUCKS! I work on a military installation as well but you DO NOT have to take the course in order to be eligible to ride on the base. Although, they do offer the course and at a discount as well to any civilians that work on the base. All I had to do was show my DoD badge, drivers license insurance and registration and I was in like flynn.

[FrankZ]

Well as stated Purp We did get the Class at Zero cost on the Base no cost if your D.O.D. like myself or Navy Personel infact Tony is a Volunteer Instructor, a Cheif off of one of the Subs up here in Groton, He rides a 2003 Indian Scout and if your familiar with the Bike and the Course,he dose the 20' Box on that Scout, that's some Ridin

[IYAAYAS!]

I'd try that Airport But I make my Living Driving on the Base Plus I Don't want to be the First Biker to test the New POP-UP Security Barrier, They had some angry First Class Try it with his F250 Wasn't very good OUCH!!!!

yep, i'm a noob, been lurking for several months though. usually if I search enough I can find the answeres to my questions w/ out having to ask.
Anyway, thought y'all might like to see a pic of that new POP-UP security barrier system in action!:rolleyes3 If i can get it to come through that is...
btw, here at whiteman, it's a requirement to take the BRC, and I had to pay for it up front, and i'm still waiting for almost 8 months now to get my $200.00 back, yep - $200.!!!:madani:

[FrankZ]

Thanx for the Pic and a Hearty FUCK OFF NOOB

Welcome to the Nut House Lot's of good Folks and Info Here Enjoy :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[jrod1970]

fuck off ya dumbassdrivinintoawallfucking noob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! welcome to shadow riders:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[AirportFF]

...
btw, here at whiteman

I was stationed there in 84-85. LLLLOOOONNNNGGGGGGG before the B2's Still have friends in Warrensburg.

[IYAAYAS!]

I was stationed there in 84-85. LLLLOOOONNNNGGGGGGG before the B2's Still have friends in Warrensburg.

I've been here since '94 w/ the A-10's. This place has changed a lot since you were here.
There's even a Navy unit here, if you can believe that.

Warrensburg has grown a bunch too, we even have a Lowes now!:thumbsup:

[IYAAYAS!]

Thanks for the hearty welcome Frank & Jrod ~ I love this forum!

[AirportFF]

I've been here since '94 w/ the A-10's. This place has changed a lot since you were here.
There's even a Navy unit here, if you can believe that.

Warrensburg has grown a bunch too, we even have a Lowes now!:thumbsup:

Are the A10's from the guard unit that use to be in KC? Do they still have the Army guard unit there?

[IYAAYAS!]

Are the A10's from the guard unit that use to be in KC? Do they still have the Army guard unit there?

Yeah, we're a reserve unit. We used to be at RG, near KC, then the BRAC closed it down and moved us over here. I work full time here though. I do the same job as civil service during the week then in uniform on drill weekends.
The Army guard is still here too.

[AirportFF]

Yeah, we're a reserve unit. We used to be at RG, near KC, then the BRAC closed it down and moved us over here. I work full time here though. I do the same job as civil service during the week then in uniform on drill weekends.
The Army guard is still here too.

What shop you work in?

[IYAAYAS!]

What shop you work in?
I work in Munitions Control :jamming:

[AirportFF]

Is the WSA still on the far side of the runway? Did many standby's over there for offloads of minuteman missles.

[chandlerk]

If you're a member of the Honda Rider's Club they will reimburse you for taking the MSF Basic Course. Not a bad deal.

[jrod1970]

If you're a member of the Honda Rider's Club they will reimburse you for taking the MSF Basic Course. Not a bad deal.did not know that! thanks for putten that info on!:thumbsup:

[IYAAYAS!]

Is the WSA still on the far side of the runway? Did many standby's over there for offloads of minuteman missles.

Yeah, it's still there. That whole side of the base has changed a lot in the last 12 years.
I work close to where you probably were for standby, were those on the haz cargo pad?

[IYAAYAS!]

If you're a member of the Honda Rider's Club they will reimburse you for taking the MSF Basic Course. Not a bad deal.

Yeah, the HRC reimubursed me $75.00, which was cool :thumbsup:
Of course the Basic Rider's Course (required) cost me $200.00 and I'm still waiting to get reimbursed by the base. :pissed:

[AirportFF]

Yeah, it's still there. That whole side of the base has changed a lot in the last 12 years.
I work close to where you probably were for standby, were those on the haz cargo pad?

Yup.

[IYAAYAS!]

Yup.

believe it or not, there's actually a stoplight on base now! over by the bx we're big time now...

[AirportFF]

believe it or not, there's actually a stoplight on base now! over by the bx we're big time now...

There was a stoplight on base about a block off of the flightline near the firehouse. We had control of it from the FD and could switch it to flash all red when we were responding to something. But ten we would always forget to switch it back.

Do me a favor, swing by the FD some day and see if Bill Sherwood still works there. He's the guy that I bought my first bike from. An 83 CB750 Custom. Tell him Clint said hi. That's if he evens remembers me. Oh and tell the Fire Chief, Ralph McHenry that he's a douchebag. He was my chief in Plattsburgh. Fucking Asshole!!

[IYAAYAS!]

There was a stoplight on base about a block off of the flightline near the firehouse. We had control of it from the FD and could switch it to flash all red when we were responding to something. But ten we would always forget to switch it back.

Do me a favor, swing by the FD some day and see if Bill Sherwood still works there. He's the guy that I bought my first bike from. An 83 CB750 Custom. Tell him Clint said hi. That's if he evens remembers me. Oh and tell the Fire Chief, Ralph McHenry that he's a douchebag. He was my chief in Plattsburgh. Fucking Asshole!!

No problem, I should be able to swing by sometime this next week. I'll let you know...

[IYAAYAS!]

Do me a favor, swing by the FD some day and see if Bill Sherwood still works there. He's the guy that I bought my first bike from. An 83 CB750 Custom. Tell him Clint said hi. That's if he evens remembers me. Oh and tell the Fire Chief, Ralph McHenry that he's a douchebag. He was my chief in Plattsburgh. Fucking Asshole!!

Hey man, sorry it took a while to reply, I've been out of town. I stopped by the FD, and neither Bill or Ralph are there any more. The guy I spoke w/ said he had been there a few years and didn't know Bill, but he did say that Ralph had retired about 2-1/2 years ago.

[AirportFF]

Hey man, sorry it took a while to reply, I've been out of town. I stopped by the FD, and neither Bill or Ralph are there any more. The guy I spoke w/ said he had been there a few years and didn't know Bill, but he did say that Ralph had retired about 2-1/2 years ago.

Yea I figured Bill was probably gone. He was a double dipper (retired master). Glad to hear Ralph is gone. He fucked me over good at Plattsburgh.

thanks for stopping by for me.