VTX Rim Mod

[cowboy]

Ok it was a pain in the ass to find the part # for the VTX mod when the site was down but I found it It is vtx rim 42701-mcv-a11 and best price is from www.servicehonda.com. Dose anyone know what tire to use I know it is the metz 200 but don't know what the other # are?

[joshsbawlz]

it's the metzler ME880 200, i dont know if that's what you were lookin for, but I personally think that's the best 200 for the vtx mod...

[T-Rob 666]

Ok it was a pain in the ass to find the part # for the VTX mod when the site was down but I found it It is vtx rim 42701-mcv-a11 and best price is from www.servicehonda.com. Dose anyone know what tire to use I know it is the metz 200 but don't know what the other # are?


M880....200/70/15

[Shadow]

That is one wicked looking pipe. I don't think I have ever seen one like that before...

[T-Rob 666]

Thanks, man. Jaxon at Wild Card Customs made it for me.

[Menace]

pics of the mod from -bigarmzz-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/t-rob/Honda750Pics005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/t-rob/Spiritwith200andrigidstruts 004.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/t-rob/Spiritwith200andrigidstruts004.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/t-rob/Spiritwith200andrigidstruts 009.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/t-rob/Spiritwith200andrigidstruts009.jpg)

here's the pics....its got the 200 Metz rear tire http://shadowriders.temp.powweb.com/public_html/YaBBImages/smilies/grin.gif, with the 4.5" VTX 1800 rear rim relaced to the spirit hub and spokes...

it also has 9 1/4" rigid struts from Torch's Customs...

-bigarmzz-

[Menace]

what size is the tire?...well, its a 200, its a metezler MME 880...i'm not sure "exactly" what the width of the tire is.....hmm.....well, the stock fender is 9" wide.....i'd have to guess maybe 7inches..but thats a guess

good luck on your all's mods.....its so fun to get the "fever"...

if anyone of you guys are in west virginia, look me up sometime...i live in Elkins

$136 from you local dealerhttp://shadowriders.temp.powweb.com/public_html/YaBBImages/smilies/huh.gif?...damn man, he's planning on retiring on you.....thats top retail dollar....my local dealer let me have mine for $100 plus tax!

from: -bigarmzz-

[Mean Streak]

Got my rim and tire in yesterday!!!

Rim was from http://www.servicehonda.com/
cost will be $106.50 to your door. If you plan on ordering over the phone, ask for some dude called Pooh. He was a nice guy.

Tire was from http://www.swmototires.com/
cost will be $161.45 to your door. If you plan on ordering over the phone, ask for Blaine. He was cool also.

The part # for the rim and tire size is correct in the above threads!


Plan on trying to lace it and true it up myself in a few days. I'll let you know how it went.

[choppermonkey]

Are you still using your subframe?.......Im running 10.25 rigids, and Im looking for smaller ones to close the fender/tire gap.......My subframe is close to the sides of the tire as it is.....do I need to get rid of the whole subframe?.........Just wondering...

[T-Rob 666]

Are you still using your subframe?.......Im running 10.25 rigids, and Im looking for smaller ones to close the fender/tire gap.......My subframe is close to the sides of the tire as it is.....do I need to get rid of the whole subframe?.........Just wondering...

No, you don't need to get rid of the subframe. You will just need to file it down a bit. That's what I did.

Oh, when you reply to somebody, it helps to use the "quote" button. It helps us who are subscribed to the thread to know who you are answering. :)

[navillustoo]

what size is the tire?...well, its a 200, its a metezler MME 880...i'm not sure "exactly" what the width of the tire is.....hmm.....well, the stock fender is 9" wide.....i'd have to guess maybe 7inches..but thats a guess from: -bigarmzz-

Just to clarify: 1mm = .040" so 200mm X .040 = 8.00 inches This is the cross section tread width.

Brian

[fegs]

If the size is (example) 195/70R15 then you read it as:
195:mm across contact patch
70: % of 195. This is called aspect ratio
R: Radial
15: Wheel size


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[Mean Streak]

Hey, you guys that have done the VTX mod. What size tube did you use? I got my rim and tire in, but forgot about the tube. Will the factory one work or do I need a specific size?
Thanks,
Mean!!!

[cowboy]

I was told you can use the same tube but I think I would just get a new one for the vtx.

[fegs]

Good question. I ordered mine as well and need to get a tube.

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[Mean Streak]

The thing is that the VTX 1800S didn't come out with a 200 tire.
I talked to Blaine from swmototires and he said we need the bridgestone in a 170 size or larger which has the curved PV78 valve stem. He didn't know what tubes are bikes came with factory so I guess if their 170's they should work. I'll find out when I change tires . I do plan on putting a new tube in, but was not sure what size.

Later, Mean!

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Mean:
Fist of all, hope all is well with you. I have searched other sites researching this issue. I also sent an email to moore as I think he did the mod. He has not replied yet. If you have all the parts and do the mod with the original inner tube, post your results.

I ordered my parts but have not gotten them. I was thinking of doing the relace myself, but found someone who is willing to do the complete mod for about 100.00


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[UncleFestes]

Maybe I missed something but will the VTX Mag wheel work also or is there a problem with the shaft drive line...

[RustyJake]

I also sent an email to moore as I think he did the mod. He has not replied yet.
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Moore has a solid rim on the back. No need for a tube now.

[Mean Streak]

Maybe I missed something but will the VTX Mag wheel work also or is there a problem with the shaft drive line...

The VTX mod is for the 750 SS's. Some of the 1800's came out with a 52 spoke wheel, which is what the 750's came out with, but the VTX rim is wider than our factory 750 rims which allow us to run a wider tire. We just take a VTX rim and relace it onto our hubs.
As far as a mag wheel working on your bike, I have not a clue. Sorry!

[cowboy]

The vtx mag wheel will not work on our bikes because the vtx is shaft drive.

[cowboy]

This is the tube you need for the metz 200 tire METZ TUBE 170/80-200/70-15 CMV
I found it here http://www.americanmototire.com/ look under tubes and under metzeler.

[Mean Streak]

This is the tube you need for the metz 200 tire METZ TUBE 170/80-200/70-15 CMV
I found it here http://www.americanmototire.com/ look under tubes and under metzeler.

What do they mean all stems are TR type? Ours needs to come up and curve out. The guy I talked to says Bridgestone 170 which has the curved PV 78 stem.
What name brand really doesn't matter to me. Metz, Bridgestone, Wal-mart, I don't care as long as the stem works!!! :laugh2:

[cowboy]

It says it fits a 170/80/15 to a 200/70/15 so any tube in that range should
be fine if it has the right valve.

[homero427]

tube??

750cc/2002 spirit
i bought the rim @ service honda 5.5 x15"...received.
ordered tire, should be here tomorrow,,metz 200/17hb15...
will go to dealer to relace,,,got all that info,,,,,,
but what's this about a tube? i gotta go purchase before tire is mounted??
or do i need one??


thnx

[Corpsegrinder]

I thought the VTX was a 4.5 wide rim.

It's 5.5 ???

[homero427]

its a 5.5
i measured from the outside and inside..
i heard that too,, the rim is actually 16 inches

42701-mcv-a11 from serviceonda.com

[homero427]

inside the rim it says

j 15m/cxmt4.50 8 04 dot.......
D.I.D JAPAN 2682 --16 19--


did i ordered the wrong rim and tire??? 200/70hb15???

fuck i hope not,,,
i did alot of research from the delphi forum too..
them guys now everything,,,u spend alot of money in that website,,they warned me last year...lol

either i spend it or the wifey does...

[Mean Streak]

inside the rim it says

j 15m/cxmt4.50 8 04 dot.......
D.I.D JAPAN 2682 --16 19--


did i ordered the wrong rim and tire??? 200/70hb15???

..

You got the right rim and tire. The rim is a 15" and is 4.5" wide.
If you look on your factory rim it says the same as the VTX rim, but wider.
Factory rim says J 15m/CXMT 3.5.............VTX rim says J 15m/CXMT 4.5.
The tube needs to be a 170 or larger with the curved valve stem.
Cowboy had some good info. in the above threads. Check it out or see if your local stealer might know for sure which tube. Let us know how it turns out.

[fegs]

Got my tube for 15.00 at a local bike shop. I have been reading up on the relace and true of the wheel. I wonder if anyone here has done it.

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[Mean Streak]

What tube size or part # ....... Fegs?
I'm going to try to relace and true it myself. Someone had done theirs, but I can't remember who it was. That was before we got shut down.
I don't have a problem with the relace. Our spoke pattern doesn't look to hard. I'm going to take pic's and draw a diagram so I'll have something to go by if I forget.

Trueing it up? I think I can do. I'll borrow my indicator from work and it will help me see how far out of wack it is.

One thing though. Does the tire need to be mounted before you true one up?, or can it be done with it off also. I may true it up with it off, then go back and double check it after tire is mounted.

I guess I answered my own question!!!!! :happy:


Oh!!! Congrats on your new Moderator postion Fegs.........YOU SUCK ASS!!!!! :tongue2:

[fegs]

Mean, here is what I got:
Inner tube is a Bridgestone 170-80-15M/C with a 90 degree valve stem. Cost was $15.00. I was also thinking about doing the relace myself, I have a dial indicator and been reading about it. Basically remove tire and tube, remove spoke nuts but leave spokes in theur place (hub), remove wheel, install wheel and spokes. Once good suggestion is to install the valve opening on the new wheel between the same spokes as the original one. Hand tight the spoke nuts, install the wheel back on the bike and place you dial indicator on right side of wheel. Spin wheel and measure run-out. The same needs to be done in the inside of the wheel. Once that is done, install new tube and tire and balance.

BTW, envy wont take you anywhere... :crazy3:

let me know how it goes.

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[herozup]

How much are new spokes normally? Do you need to replace them when you do this mod?

[fegs]

not that expensive. You should not have to replace them unless they are rusted and brake when removing them.

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[bigarmzz]

this is a pic of my bike when i first did the vtx mod

it made a world of difference in the whole look of the bike.....the only problem was the metz was a bit taller, and thus changed my gearing some....actually felt like alot instead of some....i could tell a noticable difference in take off or torque ...

[fegs]

had mine done and installed. Will post pics soon. Word to wise, ride carefully for the first 70 miles or so. The manufacturer applies a coating to the new tire (looks like armorall) rather easier to loose grip at first.

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[jmaddox]

Do you have to have the vtx rim to use a 200. Is it better?

[cowboy]

Do you have to have the vtx rim to use a 200. Is it better?
No you can put a 200 on your rim but most shops want you to sign a waiver before mounting it and it could come off the rim when cornering.There are some people that have done it and have not had a problem but the rim is only $100. and relace is $65-$75.Not worth the risk for $175. to me. :no: :sweatdrop

[Mean Streak]

Finally got mine on last week. For you guys or gals who are thinking of doing this mod, save a few bucks by lacing it yourself. I laced mine and it was easy. I took a couple pic so I would have something to look at, but didn't need them. I had the tire broke down by my local tire shop for $2.50. Then I took all the nuts loose from the spokes and pulled them out of the rim just alittle and lifted the rim right off. The spokes stayed the way I took them loose and I just laid my vtx rim back over them and put the nuts back on finger tight. Went to a new cycle shop in town and he trued it, mounted my 200, and balanced it for $40 bucks. I thought that was a fair price. I would have tried to true it myself, but my ass is on the line, so I went to someone who had the right tools and had done it before.

Here's a couple pic's!!

[Mean Streak]

Another

[AirportFF]

Looks great.........$40 to true it and mount the tire? Sounds like a deal compared to some of the prices I've seen people paying.

A few people have been asking this lately and I didn't have an answer. What size tube did you use?

[AirportFF]

had mine done and installed. Will post pics soon. Word to wise, ride carefully for the first 70 miles or so. The manufacturer applies a coating to the new tire (looks like armorall) rather easier to loose grip at first.

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That coating can be removed with Naptha on a rag. It evaporates quick so it does no damage to the tire. I've heard of people dumping their bikes the first turn they took with new tires.

[Mean Streak]

Looks great.........$40 to true it and mount the tire? Sounds like a deal compared to some of the prices I've seen people paying.

A few people have been asking this lately and I didn't have an answer. What size tube did you use?

Yea, $40 dollars was a great price for what he did. He only charged $10 bucks for mounting and balance, $30 for truing. Stealer wanted $25 bucks for mounting!!!! F*ck That!!!!
I had called another guy in town and he wanted $75 just to lace and true it. Which wasn't to bad, but I figure I saved about $30 bucks lacing it myself, more if you figure in that I got it mounted too !!


The tube I used was like Fegs used a Bridgestone 170-80-15M/C with a 90 degree valve stem. It ran $12.95.

[AirportFF]

Cool thanks for the reply :happy:

[T-Rob 666]

Another

Looks great, man!! Makes a big difference, huh?

T

[RustyJake]

Looks great mean streak! The pictures of the 200 really don't do it justice. Did you take any pics of the relace? Guys thinking of doing that themselves may be able to get a better idea of whats involved.

T-Rob, weren't you putting one on too? I think you were also trying to save your subframe. FYI, I altered mine and been riding so far this year without any problems at all. The only part of the subframe that I took off was the part that held on the back light and license bracket. It's close, but it definitely doesn't rub at all on the sides. Lots of clearance at the top with the 3/4" stops on the progrssives.

[Tangledj]

Dang guys!! I gotta go back and read this entire thread.I've got questions.I'll
be picking up my wheel today from being trued.I relaced it myself.BEST PRICE
around here for true,and lace.110 bucks!!!! Yeah,crazy huh.Now I gotta keep some subframe to keep the back end of my seat bolted down.

[AirportFF]

Dang guys!! I gotta go back and read this entire thread.I've got questions.I'll
be picking up my wheel today from being trued.I relaced it myself.BEST PRICE
around here for true,and lace.110 bucks!!!! Yeah,crazy huh.Now I gotta keep some subframe to keep the back end of my seat bolted down.

Jason, If you want to ditch the subframe and you don't do any 2 up riding. Why not get a backing plate made for under the fender to bolt the seat to?

[RustyJake]

If you aren't riding two up, the subframe mod is really simple. I've got pictures that moore sent me of a frame that was altered for no two up.

These aren't pictures of mine. I've kept more of mine right to the back set of fender strut studs.

[T-Rob 666]

Looks great mean streak! The pictures of the 200 really don't do it justice. Did you take any pics of the relace? Guys thinking of doing that themselves may be able to get a better idea of whats involved.

T-Rob, weren't you putting one on too? I think you were also trying to save your subframe. FYI, I altered mine and been riding so far this year without any problems at all. The only part of the subframe that I took off was the part that held on the back light and license bracket. It's close, but it definitely doesn't rub at all on the sides. Lots of clearance at the top with the 3/4" stops on the progrssives.

I think you have me mistaken for somebody else....I've had the VTX mod and 200 for a year now. I removed the whole subframe except for the part that actually goes under the fender. I took that tubing part off. I'm also running the 11" Progs w/ 3/4" travel limiters and the 1.5" Scootworks. I'm good to go, man.

T

[fegs]

T-Rob:
I wonder if you could run the 2 inch lowering kit with Progrssives 11 inchers and not have an issue? Or do you need travel limiters anyway? Not for riding 2 up of course.

[Mean Streak]

Hey Feg's, I know the question wasn't directed to me but, I tried to run the 2.5 lowering kit from scootworks and 11" prog. once and it wouldn't work. The chrome piece around the bottom of the prog. shocks would hit the mounting bolt of the lowering kit. I took the chrome piece off and it worked, but as soon as I sat on it the tire would rub the underside of fender. This was with stock tire. It looked low as hell, but didn't work. I adjusted the shocks to the highest setting and it would still rub when kinda bouncing on it. I'm not saying it wouldn't work with limiters though. Just my 2 cents Bro!!!!

[Mean Streak]

Looks great, man!! Makes a big difference, huh?

T

Hell Ya!! I haven't seen a pic of a 200 mounted yet, that really does it justice. They are just bigger than the pic's make them out to be.


Rusty........ I didn't get to take any pic's while relacing. Sorry guys!!! My mind was concentrating on just doing it right and take in account it was 1 o'clock in the moring when I was doing it. Had to focus,focus!!!!!

At the same time I mounted my tire, I put my 9 1/4 struts on. Had to modify the sub frame some, but more just one side. Had to cut out the tubing on the left side. It was pretty damn close to the tire on that side. Why, I don't know! The tire looks centered and rides fine. Thinking my subframe was warped.

Also put my full side mount on too. I really like the way it flows with our bikes.

Thanks for the Comp's guys!! I do rely on your input on things, unless you don't like it. Then you can go F*uck Yourselves!!!!! :biggrinje .......... j/k!!!!

[T-Rob 666]

T-Rob:
I wonder if you could run the 2 inch lowering kit with Progrssives 11 inchers and not have an issue? Or do you need travel limiters anyway? Not for riding 2 up of course.

Well, the other Scootworks is 2.5" and I'n not sure if it would work. If you're not riding 2 up at all, it might.

T

[Corpsegrinder]

T-Rob:
I wonder if you could run the 2 inch lowering kit with Progrssives 11 inchers and not have an issue? Or do you need travel limiters anyway? Not for riding 2 up of course.

There is someone over at TSW running the 2.5 scootworks with 11's and the 200.
He weighs about 160 lbs. and had told me it only rubs if he hits nasty potholes. This is w/ no subframe.

This is the setup I would like to run. (solo only)

I have the 2.5, the 11's and the stock tire and have ridden 2 up with no problem. The new 11's don't have that cover. (I don't think) I have the older style and cut small notches in the covers. you can't see the notches. I'm about 155 lbs and the ole lady is 115lbs. The shocks are on the highest setting too. Bike handles like a dream!

The TSW memebers name is Snake4227. Heres a pic of his bike. Good guy, answered all of my questions.

http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/uploads/snake4227_MEDSC.jpg

[T-Rob 666]

[QUOTE=Corpsegrinder]There is someone over at TSW running the 2.5 scootworks with 11's and the 200.
He weighs about 160 lbs. and had told me it only rubs if he hits nasty potholes. This is w/ no subframe.

This is the setup I would like to run. (solo only)

I have the 2.5, the 11's and the stock tire and have ridden 2 up with no problem. The new 11's don't have that cover. (I don't think) I have the older style and cut small notches in the covers. you can't see the notches. I'm about 155 lbs and the ole lady is 115lbs. The shocks are on the highest setting too. Bike handles like a dream!

The TSW memebers name is Snake4227. Heres a pic of his bike. Good guy, answered all of my questions.]



Well, if you're not gonna ride 2up, then get rid of the subframe and then you shouldn't have any problems at all.

T

[RustyJake]

Sorry about that T-Rob, is was someone else over at TSW. I was looking at your bike this morning when I typed that and for some stupid reason I couldn't even notice your back tire with that damn kick ass pipe on the side!

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Mean, I had to grind my subframe on the left side as well. For some reason the tire was closer to that side. No big issue though. It works fine.

Thanks for the info on the 2.5 lowring with the 11's. I think I am gonna go with that set up. I never ride 2 up anyways. I want them for the long trips.

[fegs]

whats the set up for riding without the subframe? Removing it and just running bolts and nuts on the struts / fender? Are you leaving any support for bolting the seat? Maybe just a tad of the frame towards the front of the bike?

[fegs]

Hey Feg's, I know the question wasn't directed to me but, I tried to run the 2.5 lowering kit from scootworks and 11" prog. once and it wouldn't work. The chrome piece around the bottom of the prog. shocks would hit the mounting bolt of the lowering kit. I took the chrome piece off and it worked, but as soon as I sat on it the tire would rub the underside of fender. This was with stock tire. It looked low as hell, but didn't work. I adjusted the shocks to the highest setting and it would still rub when kinda bouncing on it. I'm not saying it wouldn't work with limiters though. Just my 2 cents Bro!!!!


Mean, thanks bro, good info. I dont know which route to take on this. I know I can remove the subframe and think this might work. I want the lower look and some comfort as well (on long trips). I have my struts from Terry sebastian and the bike looks good but you can feel a penny on the road. I'll see what I do.

Oh, by the way..... speak when you are spoken to biatch!!!!!! J/K!!!!! :crazy3:

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Corpse:
You have the 11s with the 2.5? On the pic it looks higher for some reason (like 1.5 instead of).

[T-Rob 666]

Sorry about that T-Rob, is was someone else over at TSW. I was looking at your bike this morning when I typed that and for some stupid reason I couldn't even notice your back tire with that damn kick ass pipe on the side!


LOL....so, you like my big ass pipe, huh? Dude, hate to break this to you, but please don't be talking about my pipe like that....I've been happily married for 13 years and I don't think my wife would appreciate some dude talking about how big my pipe is. LOL Just fucking with ya. :)

Here another view for ya:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/t-rob/My%20Bike/DSC01514-2.jpg">

T

[RustyJake]

LOL....so, you like my big ass pipe, huh? Dude, hate to break this to you, but please don't be talking about my pipe like that....I've been happily married for 13 years and I don't think my wife would appreciate some dude talking about how big my pipe is. LOL Just fucking with ya. :)



T
LMAO, I know I set myself up after I posted...but WTF, it's only pipe envy not in a pipasexual way. I'm only using you to get the pipe off you and then leave anyways. He does great work, I had him price out a sidemount for me. A little more expensive then I was ready for, so I went with Dennis at Menacecustomcycles. He did exactly what I wanted and a great job.

[T-Rob 666]

LMAO, I know I set myself up after I posted...but WTF, it's only pipe envy not in a pipasexual way. I'm only using you to get the pipe off you and then leave anyways. He does great work, I had him price out a sidemount for me. A little more expensive then I was ready for, so I went with Dennis at Menacecustomcycles. He did exactly what I wanted and a great job.

Good to see that you have a good sense of humor. :) I've never ordered anything from Dennis...I'm definitely happy with Jaxon's work.

T

[Brevelle750]

I'm getting ready to buy, so let me make sure I've got the right items:

42701-MCV-A11, Rim $100, www.servicehonda.com (http://www.servicehonda.com)
ME880 200/70HB15 Rear, Tire $150, www.ronayers.com (http://www.ronayers.com)
Relace/True/Mount Tire

What about the tube? Part number and where to buy?

Thanks!

Mean, here is what I got:
Inner tube is a Bridgestone 170-80-15M/C with a 90 degree valve stem. Cost was $15.00. I was also thinking about doing the relace myself, I have a dial indicator and been reading about it. Basically remove tire and tube, remove spoke nuts but leave spokes in theur place (hub), remove wheel, install wheel and spokes. Once good suggestion is to install the valve opening on the new wheel between the same spokes as the original one. Hand tight the spoke nuts, install the wheel back on the bike and place you dial indicator on right side of wheel. Spin wheel and measure run-out. The same needs to be done in the inside of the wheel. Once that is done, install new tube and tire and balance.

BTW, envy wont take you anywhere... :crazy3:

let me know how it goes.

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[Tangledj]

Just tell them to send one with the tire,they should have them.Your gonna need the rim band too.The tube will probably be around 12 bucks,not sure about the band.And by the way,I've been waiting on a tire for almost three weeks now.
NOBODY has it in stock.Good luck!

[Corpsegrinder]

Corpse:
You have the 11s with the 2.5? On the pic it looks higher for some reason (like 1.5 instead of).

Uhh I'm about 2 weeks late but, nope its a 2.5 with 11's

[Mean Streak]

Just tell them to send one with the tire,they should have them.Your gonna need the rim band too.The tube will probably be around 12 bucks,not sure about the band.And by the way,I've been waiting on a tire for almost three weeks now.
NOBODY has it in stock.Good luck!
Why would you get a new rim band? Unless the old one is ripped. The band on our stock rims are the same size as the ones on a VTX. The rim is wider, but the spoke width is the same. Or am I missing something?

[Tangledj]

True I guess.I m just thinking,new tire,new tube,why take a chance on an old rim band.I mean while your doing it,do it all the way!......but then again no one pays
me to think! lol :idea2:

[Mr.Sinister]

I'm getting ready to buy, so let me make sure I've got the right items:

42701-MCV-A11, Rim $100, www.servicehonda.com (http://www.servicehonda.com)
ME880 200/70HB15 Rear, Tire $150, www.ronayers.com (http://www.ronayers.com)
Relace/True/Mount Tire

What about the tube? Part number and where to buy?

Thanks!How can this happen ? 3 posts and no welcome ? FUCK OFF NOOB .

[Mean Streak]

True I guess.I m just thinking,new tire,new tube,why take a chance on an old rim band.I mean while your doing it,do it all the way!......but then again no one pays
me to think! lol :idea2:

That makes sense. They only cost prob. 2 or 3 bucks. I didn't replace mine and it still looked good. Thought I may have missed something and really needed to change it. Thanks for the response T. :Peace!:

[outkast_opey]

ok i just got my bike and it is lowerd i looked at all the thread I want to do the vtx 200 mod so far i know i need

VTX wheel
@00 Tire
tube with coverd stem
relace wheel

is this all and also what can i do if i do 2 up ridin can i mod the subframe or where can i get a new thanks

[Mean Streak]

ok i just got my bike and it is lowerd i looked at all the thread I want to do the vtx 200 mod so far i know i need

VTX wheel
@00 Tire
tube with coverd stem
relace wheel

is this all and also what can i do if i do 2 up ridin can i mod the subframe or where can i get a new thanks
Thats a 90 degree angled stem.

The most of us went with a 200/70/15 tire. Its wider and taller than the stock. Since its taller and you might ride 2 up, how low you go may be a factor. Running shocks will be a factor too. You may want to re-read some of the posts in this thread and some others. I remember somewhere them talking about the same thing your wanting to know.

[Partsguy198]

Can I use any VTX rear rim, like an aftermarket wheel? Does it have to be from/for a specific year?


-Thanx

[cowboy]

Can I use any VTX rear rim, like an aftermarket wheel? Does it have to be from/for a specific year?


-Thanx

The vtx is shaft drive so you cant use the whole wheel just the outer rim.The rim you need is part # 42701-mcv-a11

[crazycrap]

Ok heres another question.. It's kinda on the VTX mod but different. What if I used the 750 wheel but insted of the VTX rim I just bought a rim to go with it . Only thing is the place I found that sells them don't carry a 15" I can get the rim in any width up to 6" but 16" is the smallest they carry. If I go this route what size mezt would I have to get to come out the same 200/ /16 any ideas

[ezdiver]

I am trying to do this mod to my magna but I don't have a spoke hub. does it matter if I use a 15 or 16" hub. Any help would be appreciated.
If I use a 15" hub from a spirit I should be able to use my drum brake.

[Okshadow]

Ok maybe I missed it, do you have to get different spokes, or do you just swap the rim out to the wide one, I have an 03 Spririthttp://chromewhore.com/images/members/cw_34913a19e00e3669470ca3d32412880f8aed.jpg

[crazycrap]

From what I am to understand you just switch off the rim. I'm plannin to use the same stokes and relace it myself. I ordered the new VTX rim this week should be here in a cpl of days I guess...

[AirportFF]

From what I am to understand you just switch off the rim. I'm plannin to use the same stokes and relace it myself. I ordered the new VTX rim this week should be here in a cpl of days I guess...

yup that's about it. good luck with it

[Okshadow]

Thanks to all for the info, this is what im looking for.

I ordered my rim from the local dealer, getting ready to do it, still have to figure out what tire I want.

[AirportFF]

That's what it's here for. Glad it helped.:thumbsup:

[crazycrap]

Ok I'm gettin ready to start with theVTX mod. I have all the parts layin in the floor of my shop. I am plannin to take alot of pics. Kinda to show how it went together and kinda to help me put it back together...lol If anyone would like a specific shot or pic from a specific angel let me know. I plan to use a yardstick to shop the height before and after and the new width before and after.

[Okshadow]

Im ready to watch, I have my VTX rim, waiting on the Avon to get here then Im going after it.http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=894

[pretra]

If you have trouble lacing and truing that sucker give me a holler. I rent space to a guy who does it for a living.

[Tangledj]

kinda like this?

[crazycrap]

Kinda sorta like that...

[bigarmzz]

the only thing i didnt like about doing this mod, was the taller tire you "have" to get....the metz 200/15....its a taller profile and changes your gearing quite a bit:cry:

[mkirkman99]

Does it matter if the wheel is from a 1300 or 1800 vtx. I looked them both up and the 1300 is more expensive. Is one wider than the other. thanks

[Corpsegrinder]

Does it matter if the wheel is from a 1300 or 1800 vtx. I looked them both up and the 1300 is more expensive. Is one wider than the other. thanks

Have a look here. All the info you need is right there.

http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20

[mkirkman99]

Got my tire today. its the 200/70-15 metz. My wheel will be here thursday. A friend of mine works at the Honda Plant in marysville ohio and got me the wheel for $90.00 I will post more pics as soon as it is done.

[Okshadow]

Ok Im to big of a chicken, so it was off to OKC to the wheel builder that Pretra hooked me up with, Thanks for the help. Now I am working on a new 9"wide rear fender so the 200 Avon Venom can hang out the back.

[mkirkman99]

I got my bike put back together this weekend and posted new pics of the VTX wheel and metz tire in my photo section let me know what you think.

[Gangster]

I got my bike put back together this weekend and posted new pics of the VTX wheel and metz tire in my photo section let me know what you think.

Looks great! Do you have any "how to" pics / procedure to post? If not, I think crazycrap is going to be posting "how to" on this mod soon.

Looks a lot better then the stock tire! :thumbsup:

[crazycrap]

Looks good mkirk. I have my tire already mounted and sittin in the shop waitin on me I guess. I got my shocks in the mail today 11.5 per so I should have about everything I've been waitin on. I'm goin to start puttin it on tonight but I'm goin with the 11.5s and a 2.5 lowering kit from scootworks so I'm not sure what I might run into. And for the record I just started dating this girl she live about and hour and a half away, but scootworks is just down the street from her house...lol How good is that.......

[crazycrap]

file://dsc00454

[crazycrap]

ahh can someone tell me how to post a pic on this message board....

[RustyJake]

ahh can someone tell me how to post a pic on this message board....
I'm sure this has been covered a couple of times before. A quick use of AirportFF's search button and I found this thread: http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/showthread.php?t=41&highlight=pictures

[Big O]

I got my bike put back together this weekend and posted new pics of the VTX wheel and metz tire in my photo section let me know what you think.

Looks nice fellow ohioian. I'm going to have to get a freind at the Honda plant.

[Gangster]

ahh can someone tell me how to post a pic on this message board....

Also, post your bike in the gallery:cool3:

[Okshadow]

I almost wish I would have left my 160 rear tire on the bike, now I have to get wider fender, longer chain to get bigger tire, not sure it's worth the hassels. Hope it is.

[750Shdo556]

Hey Im new to this whole internet thing, and I cant find a "how-to" for the 200 rear tire mod. Any help would be GREAT!

[RAZOR]

Hey Im new to this whole internet thing, and I cant find a "how-to" for the 200 rear tire mod. Any help would be GREAT!

HEY 750SHDO556 SINCE YOUR NEW

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WELCOME TO THE SITE,ENJOY.
DO SOME SEARCHIN USE THE SEARCH BUTTON ON TOP RIGHT HAND OF PAGE.
ITS BEEN COVERED.:grin:

[bigarmzz]

Hey Im new to this whole internet thing, and I cant find a "how-to" for the 200 rear tire mod. Any help would be GREAT!


go to the beginning of this post.....pretty much says all you need to know:idea2:

[Tangledj]

Hey Im new to this whole internet thing, and I cant find a "how-to" for the 200 rear tire mod. Any help would be GREAT!
Where you at here TN?

[750Shdo556]

Thanks for the universal salute buddy. Give me a break guys, I cant even figure out how to post a pic of my bike on here! Let me get this straight though, all I need to do is get the VTX rim and relace it to my original hub and spokes? Sounds too easy. Will it fit under the stock fender/subframe if I have a lowered rear end? By the way, I am in Columbia Tangledj.

[AirportFF]

Thanks for the universal salute buddy. Give me a break guys, I cant even figure out how to post a pic of my bike on here! Let me get this straight though, all I need to do is get the VTX rim and relace it to my original hub and spokes? Sounds too easy. Will it fit under the stock fender/subframe if I have a lowered rear end? By the way, I am in Columbia Tangledj.

just below this post is a row of numbers on the right. click on 1 and start reading. that will bring you to the first page on this thread

[750Shdo556]

OK, I guess I dont need anyone to answer that last question... I just figured out how to scroll through all the pages and have found the answers to most of my questions... except how to put a picture of my damn bike on here. Thanks guys.
Peace~

[Tangledj]

You've got it right.Vtx rim,your hub,relace and true,then ride.
It'll fit fine,unless you start getting real low in the rear.The lower you go
the more you've got to chop the subframe.
As for pictures.Reply to this message and before you send it scroll way down.
There you will see a attachment button.Or just send me the picture thru my email and I'll post it.

[750Shdo556]

Has anyone tried using a sidewall height lower than 70 on the vtx rim?

[Tangledj]

not sure on that one,cant even remember whats on mine.

[Cerberus]

Alright here is my noob question about this mod.

Things I will need to buy
-VTX 52 spoke rim
-spoke kit (if needed)
-me880 200/17 - 15
-new tube (w/ 90 deg angle)

My questions deal with A) the sub frame and B)how much modding to the subframe will be needed to made if I intend to ride two up. C) will i need to change my read sprocket, if so what number of teeth do i need. D)with the bar that helps hold the drum brake in place will i need to modify that at all?

Some quick notes about my bike
Scootworks 2.5" lowering
stock spring (under full tention)
just got a new chain 122 link (same as stock)



Thanks guys

Cerberus

[mkirkman99]

I have the 2.5 scootworks and stock shocks and ride 2 up about half the time. I had to
grind down the left side of my sub-frame. But i have heard from some that have had to grind down both sides. My brake stay rod was not bad i just used some washers to space
it out a little. If you don't run the stock tail light your best bet is to cut off the sub-frame behind the passenger support.

[Tangledj]

Alright noobster.You can use your stock spokes.Im thinking your gonna be
about the same as a 9 1/2" strut.So yes your gonna have to grind abit.The two
up with shocks is gonna be real iffy Im thinking.You dont change your sprocket
or brake stay for this mod,nor your chain,but it's a great time to change the sprocket
if your wanting a different gearing.If your running a stock sprocket I would at least drop down to a 38,or 39.This is alot better on highway.

[tombstone270]

Sorry I know this is not the for sale thread, but on the VTX relace...I am going bigger... I will have a relace vtx rim, metz. 200 tire with less than 4000 miles on it. complete rear end brake hub axle the whole thing and fender with kat eye tail light mod.... $400.00 fender should be repainted, drop me an email it you like will send pics...
sorry for hi-jacking your thread

http://bigbikeriders.com/photopost/data/4734/5844Picture_011.jpg

[Okshadow]

I am just glad it's all done and can ride again, wish I would have gone to a wider tire.
http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1469

[bigarmzz]

I am just glad it's all done and can ride again, wish I would have gone to a wider tire.
http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1469


yeah i know what cha mean....the 200 looks killer by itself, but once its mounted on the 4.5" rim, it seems like its "really" not all that big...kinda big...but ya know:sad:

[superspy02]

Sorry I know this is not the for sale thread, but on the VTX relace...I am going bigger... I will have a relace vtx rim, metz. 200 tire with less than 4000 miles on it. complete rear end brake hub axle the whole thing and fender with kat eye tail light mod.... $400.00 fender should be repainted, drop me an email it you like will send pics...
sorry for hi-jacking your thread



Is it still available? If so... How much do you want for the rim and tire? I wont need the fender... but let me know, Thanks!

[tombstone270]

Is it still available? If so... How much do you want for the rim and tire? I wont need the fender... but let me know, Thanks!



Got one person look at it know... If you did not need the fender or subframe...jut the rearend.... 350.00

shipping or pick up would be up to you...

[calicruiser]

I am just glad it's all done and can ride again, wish I would have gone to a wider tire.
http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=1469


what brand tire did you go with??? I like the look of it!

[tombstone270]

It's metz...880E....200...

Sold it I think...

[hedded]

I've read this thread plus the other closely related one. One thing I'm not clear on is if I have stock suspension, will m y bike handle an average 2-up?

[Okshadow]

I used an Avon Venom

[renegade f]

hy: I contact the honda dealer to ask for the vtx rim, but the vendor give me a bad news .....
("Jen" Jen@servicehonda.com)

DEAR VALUED CUSTOMER,

THE RIM YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS ON A NATION WIDE BACK ORDER THROUGH
HONDA. THERE ARE NO RELEASE DATES AS OF YET. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT
ON ORDER, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT 800-828-5498 EXT.240 . THE PART NUMBER
YOU HAVE IS IN FACT THE CORRECT PART NUMBER INCASE YOU WANTED TO ORDER
THAT PART.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

JEN

any oder place to buy that rim???

[renegade f]

btw: I have a shadow ace. the rim is the same of the spirit, but the fender is diferent!!

some else now if I need to cut my fender and how it looks on ace???

thanks!!!

[nomedejan]

btw: I have a shadow ace. the rim is the same of the spirit, but the fender is diferent!!

some else now if I need to cut my fender and how it looks on ace???

thanks!!!:beatnik2: hey my friend u r learning too fast. go for it.
aqui se aprende algo tambien. :jamming:

[Corpsegrinder]

hy: I contact the honda dealer to ask for the vtx rim, but the vendor give me a bad news .....
("Jen" Jen@servicehonda.com)

DEAR VALUED CUSTOMER,

THE RIM YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS ON A NATION WIDE BACK ORDER THROUGH
HONDA. THERE ARE NO RELEASE DATES AS OF YET. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT
ON ORDER, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT 800-828-5498 EXT.240 . THE PART NUMBER
YOU HAVE IS IN FACT THE CORRECT PART NUMBER INCASE YOU WANTED TO ORDER
THAT PART.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

JEN

any oder place to buy that rim???

Try ordering it from ronayers.com. Probably be a few buck more though.

[jdryden]

Just want to let everyone know that some of the rims have come off of backorder, I received mine last week. They had like 37 orders when I talked to them the week before (I work at a dealership). Also just FYI the part number has been changed too (its now 42701-mcv-a12). They should still get the right part using either number. Just an FYI.

[Titanium2006]

work for this mod? Anyone try it?

[rifleman223]

OK, gt all the parts and dropped it off to the shop to get it relaced and mounted. I figured, I'd spend more time messing with this than just pay the shop. I should get it back today and mount it. I am excited to see how this will look and feel.

[rifleman223]

Well, here is the completed mod.. Thanks to you guys!

http://www.jchphotography.com/images/bike/shadow/Shadow_009.JPG

http://www.jchphotography.com/images/bike/shadow/Shadow_001.JPG

And compared to the 200 on my Warrior..

http://www.jchphotography.com/images/bike/shadow/Shadow_013.JPG

[jajara]

Question, i ordered 10.25 hard tail strut to replace my stock, i have about 2.25 (see my picture) clearance wil it rub if i hit a bump or something?
O yes, what is the usuall cost for oil change on my spirit, and what is the millage that i can go before that change, or can i do it myself?
Thanks

[miclash1]

do it yourself !!!!!!!!

i change mine in the begining of the season. u should do it at least once every three thousand miles.

call a dealer in your area, or an independent motorcycle shop and see what they would charge....everyone is different....

[cowboy]

It won't rub im runnin 9.5 struts with a 200 on the stock rim with full sub frame and no rub.Do the oil change yourself it is easy but dont use a fram oil filter use a honda or a k&n filter

[jajara]

Ok, thanks guys, cowboy, how did you manage to put the 200 on? Did you change a swing arm?

[calicruiser]

Ok, thanks guys, cowboy, how did you manage to put the 200 on? Did you change a swing arm?

no need to change anything, 200 will fit back there with no mods. Here is a 170 avon on a VTX rim.

http://chromewhore.com/images/members/cw_87677289d7086b04ff8aeb4234e5465eeec.jpg

cali

[RustyJake]

You can slide in a 215 and you'll be tight to the chain, but no swing arm modifications are required. But I don't think you'll have much of a subframe with the 215. If they made one for the 18" rim I'd probably try it on my next rear tire.

[rifleman223]

I have the 200 on the 5.5" vtx and installed the 11.5" progressives. I had to grind the sub frame to clear the tires when the suspension travels upward. I will be installing 3/4 inch limiters to hopefully solve the issue.

I might be removing the subframe completely as soon as I find a way to mount the tail light and plate on the back.

Hope this helps.

[rifleman223]

no need to change anything, 200 will fit back there with no mods. Here is a 170 avon on a VTX rim.

http://chromewhore.com/images/members/cw_87677289d7086b04ff8aeb4234e5465eeec.jpg

cali

Tha looks like the Garden of the Gods. I lived in the springs for over 3 years. I was stationed in Norad and lived on Peterson.

[RustyJake]

I have the 200 on the 5.5" vtx and installed the 11.5" progressives. I had to grind the sub frame to clear the tires when the suspension travels upward. I will be installing 3/4 inch limiters to hopefully solve the issue.
I might be removing the subframe completely as soon as I find a way to mount the tail light and plate on the back.
Hope this helps.
I'm running the 200 on a 5.5" rim as well. 11.5" progressives (3/4" travel limiters installed). I removed the subframe tube portions that extend to the tail light. (I'm running a sidemount) Without the travel limiters, I still clear the subframe when the shocks compress. I just didn't want to take any chances if I carry a passenger, it may bottom out then.
I've retained enough of the subframe that I can still carry a passenger. So I know it's possible to have the best of both worlds.

[MISpiritRider]

Ok, thanks guys, cowboy, how did you manage to put the 200 on? Did you change a swing arm?

You gotta be shittin me! Do you read anything on these boards?

Wasn't that the topic of your first flaming? something titled "the bigi" or some stupid shit?

That shirt should say

I'M A DUMB SHIT

[calicruiser]

Tha looks like the Garden of the Gods. I lived in the springs for over 3 years. I was stationed in Norad and lived on Peterson.


look again:) see the face in the upper, middle of the pic. That be mt. rushmore!! I do love garden of the gods though, sweet rides throughout the springs and the mtns IMO!!

[jajara]

You gotta be shittin me! Do you read anything on these boards?

Wasn't that the topic of your first flaming? something titled "the bigi" or some stupid shit?

That shirt should say

I'M A DUMB SHIT.


YOU GUYS TRASHED ME IN "THE BIGI", there was no chance to get any real answers.

[Purpitrator]

So does anyone know if I can slap a 200 on my stock vtx "c" rim?

[cowboy]

yes her are the sizes from metz.

• Type of motorcycle: HONDA
• Model: 04-05 VTX1300 C
Results
ME 880 MARATHON
Front 110/90-19 M/C 62H TL ME880 FRONT
Rear 200/70B15M/CTL 82H ME880 - 38 PSI

Remarks: Stage 1
Front 110/90-19 M/C 62H TL ME880 FRONT - 36 PSI - N/A INCHES
Rear 170/80B15M/CTL 77H ME880 - 38 PSI - N/A INCHES



http://www.us.metzelermoto.com/tyres/fitment_chart/fitment.action?manifacturerID=123&modelID=04-05+++VTX1300+C&confirm=true&IMAGE1.x=45&IMAGE1.y=8

[Purpitrator]

yes her are the sizes from metz.

• Type of motorcycle: HONDA
• Model: 04-05 VTX1300 C
Results
ME 880 MARATHON
Front 110/90-19 M/C 62H TL ME880 FRONT
Rear 200/70B15M/CTL 82H ME880 - 38 PSI

Remarks: Stage 1
Front 110/90-19 M/C 62H TL ME880 FRONT - 36 PSI - N/A INCHES
Rear 170/80B15M/CTL 77H ME880 - 38 PSI - N/A INCHES



http://www.us.metzelermoto.com/tyres/fitment_chart/fitment.action?manifacturerID=123&modelID=04-05+++VTX1300+C&confirm=true&IMAGE1.x=45&IMAGE1.y=8 Thanks cowboy.....:jamming:

[RAZOR]

Thanks cowboy.....:jamming:

YEP, OLE COWBOY DONT SAY MUCH BUT WHEN HE DOES ITS ALOT...

[Purpitrator]

Yea i was told by the guys over at www.vtxoa.com (http://www.vtxoa.com) that you can run the 200 on a stock 1300 wheel but it looks wider on a 1800 wheel. The difference being that the 1800 is 5.5" wide compared to 3.5" wide on the 1300.

[ames77us]

The VTX mod is for the 750 SS's. Some of the 1800's came out with a 52 spoke wheel, which is what the 750's came out with, but the VTX rim is wider than our factory 750 rims which allow us to run a wider tire. We just take a VTX rim and relace it onto our hubs.
As far as a mag wheel working on your bike, I have not a clue. Sorry!

So are you saying that the vtx mod will not work on a 2005 shadow spirit 750? Or am I just lost??

[Purpitrator]

So are you saying that the vtx mod will not work on a 2005 shadow spirit 750? Or am I just lost??Yes it will work. Just get a Spoked VTX rim and have the outer portion of the wheel laced onto your factory hub. Simple as pie.

[ames77us]

Thanks for the info, I was a little worried I wouldn't be able to do this mod.:jamming:

[MikeG]

So if you have the bilski light which attatches to that subframe, you are kind of screwed because the subframe needs to come out. Can you get away with grinding down the tubing under the fender? Or will that make it too weak? Thanks. Oh yeah, I'm a noobie...I know...I know.

[quam]

So if you have the bilski light which attatches to that subframe, you are kind of screwed because the subframe needs to come out. Can you get away with grinding down the tubing under the fender? Or will that make it too weak? Thanks. Oh yeah, I'm a noobie...I know...I know.

dude, did you read the whole thread? you should also check this one out: http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/showthread.php?t=49.
you can do the vtx mod w/ the billski light. you can even drop the ass end a little after that (this is what i'm running [1.5" lower]) might need to shave the subframe a little, but it'll work!

[nicko99]

Looking for some assitance here. I was just on the phone w/ www.ronayers.com (http://www.ronayers.com) to order the 200/17/15 Metz and tube. They guy said they do not have a tube for it. Syays he has never been able to locate one for that tire.

Has anyone else had trouble locating a tube for it? Any suggestions?

[cowboy]

GO HERE> http://www.motorcycleproshop.com/tires/inner_tubes.asp scroll down to metzeler tubes You will probably want the first one with a 90* valve. :grin3:

[nicko99]

It is listed to 4.10 in. Will this work on a 4.5 in. rim?

*******************************************
Edited because I can't read instructions.

I found the right tube. Thanks for the help.

[Coastn1]

Iam looking to do the vtx rear wheel conversion. I just was wondering if there was a preference for the metz 200 tire or if there was something special about it that makes it fit 750ss better or better wear. I was looking at the Avon Venom 200/70-15. I kinda like the tread a little better. I noticed most of you guys however were using the Metz. Any help would be great. Thanks. Later

[RAZOR]

Iam looking to do the vtx rear wheel conversion. I just was wondering if there was a preference for the metz 200 tire or if there was something special about it that makes it fit 750ss better or better wear. I was looking at the Avon Venom 200/70-15. I kinda like the tread a little better. I noticed most of you guys however were using the Metz. Any help would be great. Thanks. Later

I was gonna answer you but after I seen that you posted the same fuckin thing twice in different threads.. your not worthy.
you fuckin NooB fuck..

welcome to the site.. enjoy..

[Purpitrator]

Iam looking to do the vtx rear wheel conversion. I just was wondering if there was a preference for the metz 200 tire or if there was something special about it that makes it fit 750ss better or better wear. I was looking at the Avon Venom 200/70-15. I kinda like the tread a little better. I noticed most of you guys however were using the Metz. Any help would be great. Thanks. LaterI had the Avon Venom on my VLX, granted it was NOT a 200 but a 180, but it was damn good tire in my opinion. Very good traction.

[quam]

Iam looking to do the vtx rear wheel conversion. I just was wondering if there was a preference for the metz 200 tire or if there was something special about it that makes it fit 750ss better or better wear. I was looking at the Avon Venom 200/70-15. I kinda like the tread a little better. I noticed most of you guys however were using the Metz. Any help would be great. Thanks. Later

ok, so fuckoffnoob, and one reason why a lot of the guys use the metzeler is because it doesn't expand even the slightest when warmed up. not sure if the avon is the same, but when you're running your tire millimeters from your subframe, you don't want it to expand after a mile and a half of riding!
btw, you don't have to post in more than one thread. most of the knowledgeable in this forum read all the new posts.

[Coastn1]

Hey thanks guys. Sorry about posting in more than one thread. It won't happen again. Appreciate the input.

[quam]

Hey thanks guys. Sorry about posting in more than one thread. It won't happen again. Appreciate the input.
no prob, and post some pix dammit!

[nicko99]

The VTX 200 Mod is complete.
Pic 1 is the old 160 on the 3.5 in. rim. and Pic 2 is the 200 on the 4.5 in. rim

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p185/stick_boy1/Bike%20Mods/VTX%20Mod/160Tire2.jpg http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p185/stick_boy1/Bike%20Mods/VTX%20Mod/200.jpg

Thanks for all the info in this thread.:thumbsup:

[quam]

nice work man.

[ames77us]

Damn I need to get my lazy ass in gear and get mine on too!!:jamming:

[MISpiritRider]

Damn I need to get my lazy ass in gear and get mine on too!!:jamming:

I should get workin on this too! Looks great Nicko!

[jeepnredcay]

can a 200 tire fit on a stock rim? I talked to a few people and they said it would.

[rifleman223]

I am getting a custom wheel from Buchanans and will be selling the wheel, tire and tube soon. So, if anyone is interested, PM me . It is a Metzeler 200 70/15 on a 4.5" wheel.

[jeepnredcay]

how much do you want for it?

[Paradox]

How bad is it to fit a 200 on a 6 inch in there? Any worse or have to loose more subframe than the 200 on a vtx 4.5?

[rifleman223]

I have the 5.5" and I lowered it. I had to grind a lot of the sub-frame for it to clear. You will probably have to grind more.

[SPECTRE]

FNG(Fucking New Guy) here !! I am getting ready to purchase a new motorcycle and I am going to either purchase the Shadow Spirit 750 (VT750C2) or Shadow Spirit 750 (VT750DC) will the VTX tire mod work for both of these bikes? Are there detailed instructions on the relacing OR will local dealer be ble to perform this?
Thanks
For Any Help :thumbsup:
Greg Moody AFB Valdosta Ga.

[SPECTRE]

FNG(Fucking New Guy) here !! I am getting ready to purchase a new motorcycle and I am going to either purchase the Shadow Spirit 750 (VT750C2) or Shadow Spirit 750 (VT750DC) will the VTX tire mod work for both of these bikes? Are there detailed instructions on the relacing OR will local dealer be ble to perform this?
Thanks
For Any Help :thumbsup:
Greg Moody AFB Valdosta Ga.
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[RAZOR]

FNG-(FUCKIN NEW GUY) DOUBLE POSTS

WTF-( WHAT THE FUCK )-

THE 07 SHAFT DRIVE I DONT THINK YOU COULD DO THE VTX MOD...

NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF
NOOB -(NEW BE)-

welcome to the site enjoy..

[Tangledj]

FNG(Fucking New Guy) here !! I am getting ready to purchase a new motorcycle and I am going to either purchase the Shadow Spirit 750 (VT750C2) or Shadow Spirit 750 (VT750DC) will the VTX tire mod work for both of these bikes? Are there detailed instructions on the relacing OR will local dealer be ble to perform this?
Thanks
For Any Help :thumbsup:
Greg Moody AFB Valdosta Ga.
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The c2 is shaft drive.This is going to limit your modding quiet a bit.You cant lower it that much,and cant go super wide.The drive shaft is built all in one with the swing arm.
The stealer,I mean dealer is not going to do alot of the mods you want,your gonna need to tacle some of this stuff yourself.Good luck with the decision.The c2 does come with a 21 inch front wheel and the shaft drive is probably a super smooth ride.

[quam]

w/ the c2 you'll be takin a new path, uncharted waters. as it just came out this year the mods for it are just now being worked out.
i know that mapam has a set of forwards that are compatible, don't know if john at slitherin will work on it's seat, don't know if there are pipes for it yet.
tangledj's right about not being able to lower it that much, prob can do the vtx, but won't be able to run the 200mm tire on it, so it i don't think it'd be worth it. only one way to find out though.
if i were in your shoes, newbie, i'd go w/ the dc.
fuckoffnoob.

[SPECTRE]

Thanks for the advice and noob abuse!! ;0)
Looks like I will go for the DC then....No probs with the VTX mod on this one?? Probably getting bike at the end of the month I am trying to shift a 2003 Ninja EX 250 first !!

[Tangledj]

The C2 fender and seat look way better than the stocker on the dc,also they recessed the radiator into the frame which looks alot better.The motor looks completely different.Just some more food for thought.
By the way,whatcha want for the ninja,and where are you located?

[SPECTRE]

I am in Valdosta Georgia I want $2000 OBOfor 2003 Kawa Ninja EX250 bike has never been down it just rolled over 10K miles. Nice little blue scoot!! I have pics if you would like to see!!

Does anyone know if the 08 DC can take the VTX mod 200mm tire??

[quam]

yup the vtx mod is specifically for the vt750dc.

[SPECTRE]

Cool !! Thanks Again!!!!

[Tangledj]

I am in Valdosta Georgia I want $2000 OBOfor 2003 Kawa Ninja EX250 bike has never been down it just rolled over 10K miles. Nice little blue scoot!! I have pics if you would like to see!!

Does anyone know if the 08 DC can take the VTX mod 200mm tire??

Well,she said no more 250's,she wants another 5,or 6 hundred.As for the vtx mod you should be good to go with the vtx.

[Titanium2006]

Ok guys, so I got the 200 Metz for the rear end, but have to order up the rim and tube. I will be going through one of my local shops to have this done - With me running the stock suspension and the billski taillight, will I have any issues with 2 up?

I read the entire thread, and see must of you guys are running struts and lower kits and ran into issues with the subframe but....

I just wanna be sure as I am going to have to relay allot of this info back to the shop. So - not lowered - billski light mod - Any issues? Will I be ok 2 up riding?

[Tangledj]

Ok guys, so I got the 200 Metz for the rear end, but have to order up the rim and tube. I will be going through one of my local shops to have this done - With me running the stock suspension and the billski taillight, will I have any issues with 2 up?

I read the entire thread, and see must of you guys are running struts and lower kits and ran into issues with the subframe but....

I just wanna be sure as I am going to have to relay allot of this info back to the shop. So - not lowered - billski light mod - Any issues? Will I be ok 2 up riding?

You should be just fine if your not gonna lower it.You could save yourself alot of money if you'll do the lace yourself.Just loose lace it,and let the shop true it it up.
just take your time,and it's not to bad at all.

[quam]

+1. relace is fuckin easy....in fact if you're careful the spokes will stay in position after you remove the stock rim.
w/ no lowering kit, you'll be fine on the 2-up. if you rub at all, just increase the pre-load on your shocks and you're g2g.

[Tiger-Ray]

Well,she said no more 250's,she wants another 5,or 6 hundred.As for the vtx mod you should be good to go with the vtx.

Is there a thread on this site for how to get the fenders moded to look like yours


Ray

[cowboy]

Is there a thread on this site for how to get the fenders moded to look like yours


Ray

look here noob http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/showthread.php?t=737&highlight=fender

[quam]

ok, noob, you forgot the true. you have to get the wheel trued after relacing.
keep in mind that the less you do w/ your own hands, the more you're gonna pay out the ass for some douche to do it for you. most of the mechs at the stealer aren't much more experienced at this shit than you are. i've seen the stealer fuck up more than get something right, especially on an uncommon (for them) mod like the vtx.
for instance, they'll prob charge you like 50-75 bones to remove the wheel from the bike and put it back on, and prob about a hondo to relace. if you throw your bike on a lift and take the wheel to get the oem tire removed, go home and relace, then take the new tire/tube and modded wheel to the stealer for true/mount/balance, you'll save prob close to 2 hondo.
don't be a pussy.
fuckoffnoob.

[Tiger-Ray]

ok, noob, you forgot the true. you have to get the wheel trued after relacing.
keep in mind that the less you do w/ your own hands, the more you're gonna pay out the ass for some douche to do it for you. most of the mechs at the stealer aren't much more experienced at this shit than you are. i've seen the stealer fuck up more than get something right, especially on an uncommon (for them) mod like the vtx.
for instance, they'll prob charge you like 50-75 bones to remove the wheel from the bike and put it back on, and prob about a hondo to relace. if you throw your bike on a lift and take the wheel to get the oem tire removed, go home and relace, then take the new tire/tube and modded wheel to the stealer for true/mount/balance, you'll save prob close to 2 hondo.
don't be a pussy.
fuckoffnoob.

Ok...so all shit aside. I dont have a lift. But all I really need to do is get the ass off the ground right? And the "relacing" the rim, with the part number in the thread, will come with the new spokes? Also, I have read about the 4.5 and 5.5" which is overall the easier to do? Is that a different part number?

I did not see a thread in the "How-To" for the mod and what to take of in what order. Any one have a link?

Don't want to be a puss, just want get the shit on there while it is still raining, so I don't lose ride time.

By the way...in case there is anyone in Tulsa.
Stealer prices are

Rim-$147.09
Tire-$251.95
Est. Labor- $240-300

Grin on my face when I get this shit on there...with ya'll's experience guiding me...priceless.

I plan on having the paintjob done this weekend. And still waiting for some lights to come in. I will post some pics of the paint job when I am through. I have the base coat but not the crystals for the effects.

[quam]

ho, jesus man! buy the rim off a microfiche site, you'll save $40, and buy the tire from an online site (try swmototire.com), you'll save almost $100, and FUCK paying that much in labor!!! dude, when i did the vtx mod, it cost me about $400 total, and it was only that much because i let them sucker me into paying a hondo for the true because i was anxious to get her done!
also, if you do the vtx mod, you don't need to order spokes. you only need to replace the spokes if you're installing a rim that is bigger than 15" in dia. the vtx rim is 15" in dia and 4.5" wide.
as far as removing the rear wheel from the bike, look on sa750.com or just search for "manual" in here and download the honda service manual. or at least order yourself a clymer manual.

[Tiger-Ray]

ho, jesus man! buy the rim off a microfiche site, you'll save $40, and buy the tire from an online site (try swmototire.com), you'll save almost $100, and FUCK paying that much in labor!!! dude, when i did the vtx mod, it cost me about $400 total, and it was only that much because i let them sucker me into paying a hondo for the true because i was anxious to get her done!
also, if you do the vtx mod, you don't need to order spokes. you only need to replace the spokes if you're installing a rim that is bigger than 15" in dia. the vtx rim is 15" in dia and 4.5" wide.
as far as removing the rear wheel from the bike, look on sa750.com or just search for "manual" in here and download the honda service manual. or at least order yourself a clymer manual.

Cool. I will work on that tonight. Gotta work a little today to keep the fat catz fat.

[rifleman223]

Here is the thread on the cost for the 18" 200 rear.

http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6336

[chewychewytoo]

the only thing i didnt like about doing this mod, was the taller tire you "have" to get....the metz 200/15....its a taller profile and changes your gearing quite a bit:cry:

Hey bigarms, I was wondering how it changes the gearing, is it less reponsive from off the line? Better on the highway, can you expound on your comment. I am going to do the VTX mod maybe and want the wider fatter look in the back, and was wondering if there was an option other than the 200/15 that would work better to make it look wider and not taller if possible.

[quam]

if you use a rim wider than 4.5" it'll help keep the tire profile down. you can check out rifleman's link above.
i did the vtx mod and after the bean box mod and pipes, the loss in gearing due to the taller tire is completely unnoticable!
or you can try doing the vtx mod and using like a 180 tire. this will give a wider than stock look and will keep the profile down. in fact, there's a chance that the 180 might even be as wide as the 200 installed.

[chewychewytoo]

Thanks quam, I like the look of it from what I have seen on most bikes, so I will probably go with what everyone else has I dont mind it filling out the space under there anyway, that lends to more of the fat tire look on the back. I was more just curious about the difference in performance etc... I will be ordering the parts as I can afford it, I am in the process of getting a second stock rear wheel setup from a member here for a good price so I wont be down while I work on it. Any other feedback on the different tires to use is welcome, the 18 inch setup seems a lot more expensive of a mod, not sure its worth it, when I can get it pretty wide looking for the VTX mod. I saw some threads comparing the various widths side by side with pics, I will dig around for some of those before I commit to a certain size or rim.

[chewychewytoo]

kinda like this?

Hi Tangledj, can you confirm what rims these are in the pics, is it the stock next to the 4.5 VTX rim?

[fegs]

Cliff, if ur running a 39 or 37 sproket u'll be ok bro. If ur not, then u need to get 1.

[fegs]

if U pay more than 350.00 (and this is expensive) for all (tire, tube and wheel and respoking and mounting, etc) u have issues and deserve to take it in the butt... .

[chewychewytoo]

Well the VTX mod cost me more than I thought it would, but I finally got it all done this past weekend...

175~ for the tire, 108~ for the Rim, 20~ for the tube, 24~ to have the old tire removed from the extra stock hub/rim I used for the relace so I would not be down while getting it done. The extra stock rim/hub I got for a deal on the forum for 56, then it cost me another 150 for the true and mount and balance. I relaced it myself so that saved some... All in all it cost about 533 give or take a couple of bucks for shipping/taxes...

I did end up with two extra tires with good tread a 160/70/15 and 160/80/15 and a complete rear wheel setup with brake and sprocket so if anyone wants some of these parts let me know...

I also found that this mod lowered the RPM's quite a bit, I have yet to take it on the highway due to some bad weather here, but some riding around town it seems to have lowered the RPM's to the point that I will wait to change the rear sprocket for now...

Here are some before and after pics of the tire on the bike...

Stock 3.5 inch wide rim with the 160/70/15 on the bike
http://ss750.net/vtxmod/onthebikestock160.jpg

VTX 4.5 inch wide rim with the Metzeler 200/70/15 on the bike
http://ss750.net/vtxmod/onthebikevtx200.jpg
For more detailed before and after pics of the entire project including the subframe chop and grind, see my site here:
http://ss750.net/vtxrim.htm

[Titanium2006]

TUBE QUESTION

Is anybody using the stoc tube with the 200 Metx Tire? I was looking at the Metz and Bridgestone Tubes but they can only be found in the US. I cannot find anywhere in Canada. Then to make matters worse, the guys in the US will not send to Canada or ship to a billing address outside of US......stupid F#@ks !!!!

Anybody wanna send a Canuck a tube?

[RustyJake]

Probably because Parts Canada has them wrapped up in a contract. Seems almost all of the parts for Jap bikes go through them. They are like the mafia of bike parts up here.

[Titanium2006]

Yeah I have been searching high and low, and through all of the parts canada catalogs...Nothing with a curved stem.

And those I found in th US won't ship to Canada, so to answer my questions:

#1 - anybody using the stock tube with the 200 metz (I am assumin bad idea)

#2 - Anybody wanna work something out for a tube and ship it to me in Ontario Canada?

[fegs]

I thought you could use stock size tube.

[chewychewytoo]

Also I had a tube installed with straight stem and it works ok, its a little of a challenge if your using a long truck air tip, but a normal small tip for air works great.

[Titanium2006]

So I can get away with a straight valve? Chewy what make tube and size did you go with? Maybe I will just take that route.....

Is anyone just re-using the stock tube?

[chewychewytoo]

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</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 2.25pt; BORDER-TOP: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 2.25pt; BACKGROUND: #fefefe; PADDING-BOTTOM: 2.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 2.25pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; mso-border-alt: solid #DBE1ED .25pt; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid #DBE1ED .75pt" vAlign=top>METZELER ME880 200/70HB-15 REAR<O:p</O:p


</TD></TR><TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 1; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 2.25pt; BORDER-TOP: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 2.25pt; BACKGROUND: #fefefe; PADDING-BOTTOM: 2.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 2.25pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; mso-border-alt: solid #DBE1ED .25pt; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid #DBE1ED .75pt" vAlign=top>1<O:p</O:p</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 2.25pt; BORDER-TOP: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 2.25pt; BACKGROUND: #fefefe; PADDING-BOTTOM: 2.25pt; BORDER-LEFT: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 2.25pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #dbe1ed 1pt solid; mso-border-alt: solid #DBE1ED .25pt; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid #DBE1ED .75pt" vAlign=top>METZELER TUBE 180/70-15, 200/70-15, 170/80-15 (SIDE VALVE)<O:p</O:p


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I got the above from this site: http://www.americanmototire.com (http://www.americanmototire.com/)

Even though I ordered the side valve version they sent me one with the straight valve.

[Titanium2006]

Yeah I seen that site, they wont ship to Canada. I can get the straight valve here, maybe I will just try that then.....Since I can't seem to find the 90* valve anywhere

[Titanium2006]

Hope your right Chewy, I could not find the 90 stem valve my side of the border. And the bastards in the US wouldn't ship to me....prob pissed cause our dollar is worth more now...hahahaha.....So I ordered the straight stem...will know by next week if its gonna work out for me....

Cheers

[Titanium2006]

Well I got this mod done finally....if it is width you are looking for in this mod, don't bother. I will only give you 5mm more width over stock. I measured the widest point before and after, pics below.

Now on other hand, it is a bad ass looking tire, and adds some nice heigt and performance. But to be honest, I cant really justify the cost and time to swap the rim, lace the tire, have it trued, get new tube..yady yady yady...

In my opinion I would have been just as well off going with the 180 and keeping the stock rim...set up...dont get me wrong, it looks geat and will never go back...but if I started it again on a bike, I would skip the VTX Rim Mod. For the costs that go along with it, the extra 5mm width isnt worth it......I woulda just went 170-180 on the stock setup..

Dont take it the wrong way, its a great tire, great mod, but dont expect too much. I think I expected a little more width...But like I said, its a bad ass tire!!!

* You can see the small difference in width by looking at the space between the black tape and the clamp on the lower right photo - 5mm - (and no Im not squeezing he tire, just using to gauge the size)

[Titanium2006]

oh ya, Chewy your right. I had no problems with the straight stem tube, it was the only one I could find and it worked well..no issues....the 90 degree valve isnt necessary...

[quam]

i'm thinkin that the 180 on the vtx rim might give a little bit more width (though it would detract from the height), that's prob the tire i'm gonna go w/ next....

[STI2016]

So on the VTX mod which is better the 180 tire or the 200? I would like to know cuz I am goin to buy my tire for the mod soon and want to get as much width as possible. Can anyone give any info on 180 vs 200?

[chewychewytoo]

Fegs put the 180 on the VTX and he said compared to mine its not as fat or wide looking. Maybe we can meet up and get some side by side photos of his 180 vs my 200 now that we both have the VTX rim on the bikes.

[JACKG]

still waiting for the rim to arrive. keep telling me its on back order, been three weeks now, getting it from Honda On Line Direct. 104.00,no shipping or tax. but thats ok its been to dam cold to ride . hey chewy what did it do to 5th gear

[JACKG]

well they shipped my rim off, should be here today or monday. tire has also been shipped, will be here on the 5TH by u.p.s. here it is december and its about 68 deg. out , just last week it was about 50 deg. out. :bucktooth

[ShadowRiderScooby]

Has anyone done this with the new shaft drive '07s. I just joined this site so forgive me if this has been asked already. To introduce myself. I'm Perry from OK. Been riding some time. Used to have a VTX 1300 C. Sold that one a year or so ago. Just bought this new 750C2. Love it so far.

Thanks for any input!!

[JACKG]

well got my wheel done. as in past thread, it did'nt make it much wider but you sure tell the differance in the hight. and it does look a lot bigger. only road it up and down the street so far, will take it out on freeway this week end. oh, I laced and trued it my self. after you get your hub off set right, the rest was easy. took wheel and tire to local stealer ( dealer ) to have mounted and bal.

[STI2016]

So are you happy with the 200 look? I am thinkin about the 170

[fegs]

Has anyone done this with the new shaft drive '07s. I just joined this site so forgive me if this has been asked already. To introduce myself. I'm Perry from OK. Been riding some time. Used to have a VTX 1300 C. Sold that one a year or so ago. Just bought this new 750C2. Love it so far.

Thanks for any input!!

Welcome and fuck off noob. I do believe someone here has done it.

[ShadowRiderScooby]

Welcome and fuck off noob. I do believe someone here has done it.

Thanks for the "fuck off Noob" My first one. Awesome. Yeah after I posted that question I found a thread dealing with just that. The C2 with the wider rim. Says it can be done. I'll have to wait and see what else comes along for the C2. I'm stacking chrome on it right now. I'm just glad to be back in the saddle again. It was too long.

[JACKG]

took it out this morning on the free way and the thing I noticed the most is the lower RPM at free way speeds ( est 70mph ). dont try to shift for that extra gear thats not there any more. also the bike seems to want to right its self up more during turns and corners. yes im happy with it. I think the tread on the metzler gives it a wider look then it realy is.

[mustangman915l]

The vtx mag wheel will not work on our bikes because the vtx is shaft drive.

how could i make this mod work, but keep my spirit c2 shaft drive?

[ShadowRiderScooby]

The mag wheel won't work but the spoke one that the earlier Spirits are using will. You just need to buy the 1800S rear rim and have it laced back to your hub. It will work on our '07 C2's.

[mustangman915l]

The mag wheel won't work but the spoke one that the earlier Spirits are using will. You just need to buy the 1800S rear rim and have it laced back to your hub. It will work on our '07 C2's.

thanks scooby

[ekozy1]

Ok, I haven't seen anything posted around here about this, so hopefully this hasn't been covered already. Can I do the VTX mod to my VLX? Without any horrible alterations? I really hope I can. It's time for me to buy a new tire and I'm thinking about buying a VTX rim with it too!

[bandolero]

Wheel Mod 18"x5.5

[ShadowRiderScooby]

Wheel Mod 18"x5.5

FUCK OFF NOOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bandolero]

http://www.shadowriders.net/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=big&p=4744

[YO MUDA]

Hey NOOB, whats with them ugly ass stickers on your bike?

[tommy]

M880....200/70/15 do i need different spokes???????????

[nicko99]

do i need different spokes???????????

Nope, the original spokes are relaced onto the new rim.

[Corpsegrinder]

do i need different spokes???????????

no

[tommy]

Nope, the original spokes are relaced onto the new rim.thanks:thumbsup:

[chewychewytoo]

do i need different spokes???????????

No all your doing is relacing the existing hub and spokes to the wider rim from the VTX, you need to read this entire thread all the info is there. Hint, start at the beginning.

[flyboyx]

love a good rimjob.

[Timmy67.5]

I've noticed some people saying that the Metz 200/70/15 is slightly taller when mounted to the VTX rim/Shadow Hub.

I'm wondering if it would be acceptable to change the aspect ratio from 200/70 to 200/65 or even 200/60 to compensate for the height some. Has anyone done this yet? Anyone have any ideas why it wouldnt work?

[GostRider]

They only make 200/70/ for they 15" rim !!!!

[Timmy67.5]

Hmmm... well I guess that's a GREAT reason nobody's done it then.

[Big Horn]

ok, this may be beating a dead horse but here it goes... has anyone had to change the sprocket after this mod? taller tire would change "gear ratio" right?

[nicko99]

ok, this may be beating a dead horse but here it goes... has anyone had to change the sprocket after this mod? taller tire would change "gear ratio" right?

The size difference isn't big enough to to require a sprocket change. And if I did the math correctly, it doesn't change the speedomometer reading by much either. I think it was something around 3 MPH different at 55 MPH. That was using the reccomended Metzler tire.

Most people are changing the sprocket out to get lower RPM's at highway speeds.

[mikedemi]

This is my first post on the entire forum and I’ve read the entire VTX rim mod thread like ten times after I decide to make the mod. The only thing I have to say is “Hell Yeahhh”. I love the new look of my bike. Thanks guys!
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg43/el_guillibo/DSCF06062.jpg

[tommy]

M880....200/70/15is there any spacing issues in standard vtx rim mod?

[Jwilkspirit]

I'd like to know what this mod should cost, lock, stock and barrel. Can I use the original spokes? cause the people at my local honda said I couldn't! I was under the impression that all I would need would be the outer rim, and a tire then relace the original spokes to the original hub and to the new outer vtx rim, right?:huh:

[nicko99]

You use the original hub and spokes. All you need is the outer rim, tube and tire. You can relace it yourself or have a local motorcycle repair shop do it for you. For the minimal cost, it's worth your time to have a shop do it.

All the part numbers are available earlier in this thread.

[Jwilkspirit]

The local honda is trying to charge me in excess of $400 to get me the rim and relace the wheel! Does that sound outrageous?

[fegs]

What!?!?!?! fuck yeah is too much. You can relace it yourself, Install the tire your self and just have it balanced. Use the search button on the upper right heand corner.

Oh yeah.... fuck off noob!

[nicko99]

$400 is insane. You can buy the rim online for $120.00. The shop (not the dealer) charged me $45 to relace it.

[chewychewytoo]

Yeah I got the rim online and relaced it my self, then had a local cycle repair place true it and mount and balance the tire. I think I spent maybe 400 or a little more, on all of it, including the new 200 mm tire and an extra stock rear setup so my bike would not be down while I did the relace. The stock rear setup I got for 50 bucks from someone on this forum shipped, it was a great deal, and it included everything, the wheel hub spokes even a tire. Then I resold the remaining parts except for the rim, and made back some of the money so it ended up costing me around 350 total, and I think I paid about 120 to 150 for the true, mount and balance the truing was the most expensive part at the shop it was time consuming and they charge hourly.

[fishwarior]

I see ppl putting a 18 x 5.5 on if I was to get one of these rims would i need to buy longer spokes as well?:lol:

[1badz28]

I see ppl putting a 18 x 5.5 on if I was to get one of these rims would i need to buy longer spokes as well?:lol:

Most if not all 18 x 5.5" are Harley Conversions.