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Swilly
04-17-2009, 02:44 PM
Forewarded to me by my cousin in Virginia Beach, and posted with permission.

Subject: AH, now it comes out

Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

1. BHO wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.

2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn't do anything unless the hostage's life was in "imminent" danger

3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction

4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.

5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams

6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies
7. BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive" behaviour. As usual with him, it's BS.


So per our last email thread, I'm downgrading Oohbaby's performace to D-. Only reason it's not an F is that the hostage survived.

Read the following accurate account.

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Philips’ first leap into the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors — and none was taken.


The guidance from National Command Authority — the president of the United States, Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger. The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.


After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on-scene-commander decided he’d had enough. Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.

There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put an end to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.
Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the experienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What should have been a standoff lasting only hours — as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location — became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.


Kinda makes you proud, doesn't it.

Swilly

Farther
04-17-2009, 03:07 PM
I don't think that this case is unique in that personnel on the ground have issues with the chain of command. Bottom line is that it was a successful operation with no loss of American lives.

Rocky
04-17-2009, 11:25 PM
The smart thing to do is to allow those "well trained" personnel on the ground to do what they do better than any politician or government official ever did. BHO, in three short months, is well on his way to surpassing JC as the worst excuse for a president EVER.

SmokeShowin
04-18-2009, 12:36 AM
No matter what the circumstances, the goal was to end this with Captain Phillips coming home ALIVE. If this meant waiting until the "perfect" moment, I have no problem. This was resolved with the only casualties being pirates.

On a side note, nice to see my home town make the national news. Shane Murphy, the second in command who took over when the captain was taken hostage, lives about 3 miles down the road from me. Kudo's to all involved! :thumbsup:

Raymo
04-18-2009, 10:41 AM
No matter what the circumstances, the goal was to end this with Captain Phillips coming home ALIVE. If this meant waiting until the "perfect" moment, I have no problem. This was resolved with the only casualties being pirates.

On a side note, nice to see my home town make the national news. Shane Murphy, the second in command who took over when the captain was taken hostage, lives about 3 miles down the road from me. Kudo's to all involved! :thumbsup:

I agree. The end justifies the means. It worked out well.