I just want to post this to maybe open up some eyes

[dave101363]

Guys and and gals I just wanted to share this with you all. I could not watch this all they way because I'm a huge dog lover. This really pisses me off!!!! http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=yadkin_county&Player=wm&speed=_med
I have to admit I felt tears comming to my eyes after what I saw.... Sorry I hope I don't upset anyone... D

[RAZOR]

THATS JUST WRONG,ITS JUST WRONG.HORRIBLE.the poor things dont even know
whats going to happen.or maybe they do but have given up all hope for themselves.
tell you one thing i do have a lump in my throat after seeing that.
(they are all in a better doggy heaven now) :angel:
where they dont have to worry about such crule humans and there are given all the
love they need now.

[RustyJake]

That is truly disturbing. I realize there may be a problem with over population of pets, but there are better and more humane ways to do this. Not that I condone doing it at all. People need to be responsible for their animals, "have your pet spayed or neutered".....Bob's right.
Pets are people too.

[amazngrace]

I love animals as much as anybody, I have two dogs and two cats. Having said that, I think a few things need to be said:

1. These guys do not look happy in their work

2. At no point do they actually mistreat the animals

3. The animals are put to death by gas, this is supposed to
be painless, and I believe this is the most common
method used by both the SPCA and local goverment
shelters

4. This is only done as a last resort after trying to adopt
them out

5. If the dog population is not kept in check, what you
end up with is roaming wild dog packs and an even
better vehicle for the spread of rabies ( I've worked
somewhere where we had both, it AIN'T pretty)

6. The whole idea of this video is to bring your emotions
to the front and inflame you to the point that the
reality of the situation and issues are ignored and
all that is left is "we have to do something about this"
That is how PETA works

Lucky me, PETA national headquaters is in Norfolk in my
area !!!

...ED

[amazngrace]

Since I'm on my high horse, one more thing

If you want to help, have you pets neutered, convince your
friends, neighbors and coworkers to do the same !!
That helps !!

...ED

[RustyJake]

Since I'm on my high horse, one more thing

If you want to help, have you pets neutered, convince your
friends, neighbors and coworkers to do the same !!
That helps !!

...ED

Too bad the same thing can't be done for some people. I agree that there is a need for this, but there shouldn't be. I agree that there is a need for spaying and neutering your animals. There is too much pain and suffering in the world and animals are not "expendable" as some people seem to think. I'm sorry, but not having children and having a pet, my pet is my child and is treated as part of the family.
I don't think anyone would 'like' their job and if they showed any joy or emotions, they would be sick individuals. Personally, I couldn't do that job but that's just me.
As for not feeling pain..well, I would beg to differ. Listen to the audio when the gas is turned on, those aren't welps of joy coming from the box. It's fear and pain together. Not a way to spend your last seconds on earth. And to top off the box with puppies, that's just more cruelty. Don't think that they aren't capable of understanding death......they are standing on it.
Sorry, that's just a cruel way to do it. Lethal injection may be a better choice. As for the way they do it in other states, I can't speak for that. But the humane society in Canada does not put dogs or cats down in that fashion.

[cryin'wolf]

Rusty, I sympathize with you, my 14-year-old Lab is my only child, and I’d rather see people herded and gassed in such an efficient manner, than see her go through that. However, it is necessary to realize that we (human beings) make this happen. We through a gift of intelligence have for conversation sake evolved out of the animal kingdom, and govern all things on earth as if we were the only beings of relevance, and our survival in the ever growing comfort that we have become accustom to is all that matters. We exist today primarily because we have learned not to control our environment, but to manipulate it for our own ease and pleasure.

Most of the world’s human population operates in this fashion. There are many on both sides of the factual divide that we are an animal, caretakers of the earth, and rulers of it; however, nearly all miss the truth that wisdom, applied knowledge and understanding universal balance is the treasure we all have yet to find cherish.

Everything on our planet has the ability to co-exist with this balance except for modern man. Let me use Amazngrace’s comment for one example.

“If the dog population is not kept in check, what you
end up with is roaming wild dog packs and an even
better vehicle for the spread of rabies ( I've worked
somewhere where we had both, it AIN'T pretty)”

This argument of dog over population is hardly legitimate if the human population were kept naturally in check also. Dogs will and do live with an established social order, often referred to as a pack, and yes they may and do in many cases contract rabies; however, if our population were limited the life expectancy of a wild dog would be reduced to only about 2 years because of parasites, like heartworms, tapeworms, ticks and disease along with other factors like food and water sources, and natural disaster.

Let me point out that roaming wild dogs and rabies are a concern only because they disturb the ease with which we live. Mankind has a long history of screwing up the universal balance of the earth, and economics has been as big a factor as any in doing so. I’ll you trees for my next example. In a typical woodland area the natural balance of trees to land area is about 55 trees to an acre of land. Logging companies learned this in the 1930’s, when they overloaded the land with 100 trees per acre, as replanting is not 1980’s environmentalist feat as claimed. Entire crops were lost as disease and natural fires, again rebalanced things. Even something as simple as getting a Redwood tree seed to germinate was screwed up by man. We have fought forest fires for years, with a fever, with only self-preservation in mind, but by doing so we were losing the Redwood forest. The Redwood seed will not germinate until the ground it is in has reached a temperature in excess of 400 degrees Fahrenheit. Of coarse we can’t have fires burning down our homes?

Anyway mankind spreads, and then when something tries to keep us in check it’s a disaster, epidemic, or catastrophe, and we respond by building bigger, stronger, a more powerful (add any noun here). More people live today because of advances in technology, and stress our resources and negatively affect the lives of other animals. Now the only thing that can keep us in check is ourselves, or entire system failure.

I’d like everyone to know the sounds from the dogs in the box are not cries; they are gasps CO suffocates, humane, eh.

[dave101363]

Too bad the same thing can't be done for some people. I agree that there is a need for this, but there shouldn't be. I agree that there is a need for spaying and neutering your animals. There is too much pain and suffering in the world and animals are not "expendable" as some people seem to think. I'm sorry, but not having children and having a pet, my pet is my child and is treated as part of the family.
I don't think anyone would 'like' their job and if they showed any joy or emotions, they would be sick individuals. Personally, I couldn't do that job but that's just me.
As for not feeling pain..well, I would beg to differ. Listen to the audio when the gas is turned on, those aren't welps of joy coming from the box. It's fear and pain together. Not a way to spend your last seconds on earth. And to top off the box with puppies, that's just more cruelty. Don't think that they aren't capable of understanding death......they are standing on it.
Sorry, that's just a cruel way to do it. Lethal injection may be a better choice. As for the way they do it in other states, I can't speak for that. But the humane society in Canada does not put dogs or cats down in that fashion.
Rusty Thank You I couldn't said it any better....
I might add When I started my cop job I was told by my FTO( field training officer )
That maybe one day you might have to put a dog or cat down by the use of your duty weapon. I think my responce was I will quilt this fucking job First..... That won't happen in my life.

[RustyJake]

I’d like everyone to know the sounds from the dogs in the box are not cries; they are gasps CO suffocates, humane, eh.
I may have worded it incorrectly, just wanted to point out that it's not painless. We tend to forget that pain isn't something that is just a human trait.
There is a natural balance in nature and humans are our own worst enemy. And a lot of times environmentalists and organizations like peta do more damage then good. Keep in mind that an animal born into this as a pet doesn't have the same choices we do. They are dependant on people. We just need to be better caretakers of the earth, but I don't see that happening.

The first thing we did when we got our dog was have her spayed. It was the right thing to do.

[amazngrace]

Rusty: I did say "supposed" to be painless, and I don't like
the practice either.

At least everyone seems to realize that as usual PEOPLE
are the real problem.

IMHO there are some people who should not be allowed
to have pets (not to even mention children) !!


....ED

[amazngrace]

Wait one, I remember a local story involving PETA and
pets in N.C.from this year. I'll see if I can find it.

[amazngrace]

Check this out :

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=90759&ran=34909


...ED

[RustyJake]

They become environmental terrorists in their cause. Some times these fundamentalist groups do more harm then good. Their are tree huggers that do the same sort of thing, spiking trees and such. Risking lives of others in the interest of their cause. Like the video, it's goal it to enrage people. Things like this do happen, and not being seen doesn't make it right. I am still sickened by the thought of what I saw.
I don't know what the answer is, but this will never be solved in our life time. I would hope that when someone is called above and they have to answer for what they've done in their lives, they can do so with comfort.

[gat803]

fuck peta, they're nothing less than domestic terrorist's.

[FFsLady]

yes, i cried.
that was absolutely horrible and couldnt watch the whole thing. I worked for a vet for a short time. She was truly a wonderful person BUT the animals are her LIFE. Unfortunately, she spent all of her time helping animals and people w/tons of ferile cats, she didnt have time for a social life. She's happy though. Lethal injection is how she did it. There was an elderly woman who had tons of feral cats and called cuz she couldnt take care of them anymore...feces all over her place etc.
The vet went to the womans house to check out the cats, and she said that unfortunately, she would have to inject the sickly ones so they didnt spread disease because the old woman never had them checked out or immunized. The vet wanted to do it herself instead of calling a shelter because she would do it in a more humane manner. I respect her for that. I agree, spay and neuter. I think all animals should be spayed/neutered before they are sold/adopted out. Only licensed breeders should be able to breed.
One last note on cruelty to animals.
Greyhounds......I read an article a while ago that certain racetracks kill the dogs who cant perform anymore by sticking an electrical rod up their butts. They called it Tijuana Torture.

[amazngrace]

FFsLady :

For a better side to this :

http://www.greyrescue.com/

...ED

[amazngrace]

To everyone who wants to help the pets from Katrina, this
is a LEGITIMATE site:

http://www.noahswish.org/

...ED

[RustyJake]

To everyone who wants to help the pets from Katrina, this
is a LEGITIMATE site:

http://www.noahswish.org/

...ED
Thanks for the link, everyone including the animals need help down there.

[Mr.Sinister]

fuck peta, they're nothing less than domestic terrorist's. PETA sucks ! I refuse to make my dog a vegan because meat is murder ? They are a bunch of extreamists . When they come to my door for petition signing I call them pet o philes . They hate it and leave . To many celebraties are pampered by that group . I don't care what Pam Anderson has to say about making your cat a vegatarian . They ignore the natural order of life and substatute their own false reality . When I was a kid I went to the store and someone would give me a puppy from a box . Today I can adopt a dog from the humane soc for $150 bucks that some bastard has screwed up in the head . That I could not trust around my kids . Or spend $1000 bucks for some over bread dog with papers that my kids can't play with .What happened to giving dogs away to good homes ?

[cryin'wolf]

I agree. Has anyone seen Penn & Tellers Bullshit episode on environmentalists? It should be required viewing for everyone. All these groups are nothing more than elitists, using environmental / animal protection as a guise for their own polital agendas.

[Mr.Sinister]

I am just sayin dogs cost alot of money these day . I don't see many free ones . If you can afford to buy one you should be able to feed it and take it to the vet . Not to mention if you drop that kind of money on somthing you should want to take care of it . If it loves you unconditionaly then even more so . I guess the same could be said about children . Some people only see the work and cost . They forget those quiet times when they fall asleep in your arms on they couch or when they tell you they love love you for no reason . Poop , time and money . I will never have any respect for those people or peta .

[amazngrace]

There always seems to be someone looking to give puppies
and adult dogs away around here. But even if you get the animal free, the first thing you have to do is take them to the Vet for check up and shots.

We got our Golden Lab from the Animal Hospital (oldest
daughter works there).
He had been brought to them with a broken leg and the
owner wanted him "put down" as he didn't have the money
to pay for his treatment. The AH people refused to put him
down and told the man that if he would release the dog to
them they would treat him. A month later we bring home a
one year old loveable well behaved housebroken yellow lab.

No cost to us, but I think this would have been the case
with anybody who adopted him as the primary concern was
that he go to a good home where he wouldn't be allowed to
play in traffic !!

[TinyUFB]

Never judge a book by its cover. We have all heard this. We all understand the wisdom behind it, yet we never learn from it.

PETA has been called on the carpet for the very same inhumane treatment. If you never read Michael Crichton's 'State of Fear', then head out to your local bookstore. Find a comfortable chair and just read the EPILOGUE. Read PETA's version of how to humanely destroy an animal. If you have doubt, check out his references, and you will learn that what he claims can be verified.

Sinister and RustyJake are right. PETA and other organizations like them are not what they appear to be! They have an agenda, and until you know their real agenda, be very careful. Don't pass judgement so quickly.

Tiny

[RustyJake]

Reading the article that amazngrace posted a link to and having seen the video, you almost have to wonder if this wasn't 'staged' by them.
I love animals, I realize that there is a necessity to keep things in balance. It's just that sometimes there is no need for this if common sense would have played any part in the owner's life.

[SmokeShowin]

Reading the article that amazngrace posted a link to and having seen the video, you almost have to wonder if this wasn't 'staged' by them.
I love animals, I realize that there is a necessity to keep things in balance. It's just that sometimes there is no need for this if common sense would have played any part in the owner's life.

I was just thinking the same thing.