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RustyJake
08-20-2005, 01:36 PM
I know there are a few of you out there that know cars. Anyone have a clue what type of car this is?? Also, anyone know of any video software for enhancing the picture to try and grab a plate number. The dickwad woman hit my wife's bike, knocked it over and didn't leave any contact info. All caught on video (14.5 MB so I can't upload it anywhere). Thanks in advance !!http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b121/RustyJake/misc%20pictures/QB081005008_0001.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b121/RustyJake/misc%20pictures/QB081005003_0001.jpg
RustyJake
08-20-2005, 01:37 PM
A little satisfaction on a local radio station:
http://www.rock101.com/station/tool.cfm?REM=6539&fld=2005&fle=CFMIFM_2005_8_17_13-34-28.wma&wids=300
AirportFF
08-20-2005, 01:49 PM
Looks like it might be a Dodge Neon.
Sorry about the bike Glenn, How bads the damage?
RustyJake
08-20-2005, 01:58 PM
Damage isn't that bad really. But it's a brand new bike.
Throttle Kuryakin grip, mirror and brake lever, foot peg and pipes are damaged. Looks like the mount for the bags is bent as well. Not sure, but the whole back fender looks a little twisted. Could just be my eyes though.
Thought it looked like a dodge, but then there's so many cars that look the same.
AirportFF
08-20-2005, 02:12 PM
Judging from the rear bumper fascia, it looks like a 03 Neon
Check on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Neon-SXT-2-0L-03-4DR-SEDAN-FULL-POWER-OPTIONS-LOW-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6204QQitemZ4569698760QQrdZ1#lg
Got any other stills?
AirportFF
08-20-2005, 02:13 PM
Try spike over on TSW...he might be able to do something with the pics.
bucky685
08-20-2005, 06:41 PM
It looks to me more like a Dodge Stratus.
RustyJake
08-20-2005, 08:23 PM
thanks guys. I'll be keeping my eyes open for a dodge for sure.
Neon or Stratus. That really sucks!!!!
moore6085
08-20-2005, 11:52 PM
I haul cars for Allied Automotive. It's kinda hard to tell from the picture, but it looks to me like either a dodge neon or stratus. Im thinking more like a stratus though.
croach1
08-21-2005, 09:46 AM
I am almost positive that is a stratus.
Mr.Sinister
08-21-2005, 10:57 AM
Not sure if that is a neon or a stratus myself . Is that a woman driving and is that a carseat in the back ? Did you get it on video ? Non pixleated video?
C@Woman
08-21-2005, 11:40 AM
I am going to try something... if I print out the pic with the plates, I can blow up the image from the original size instead of trying to blow up the picture.... well, I know what I mean anyway. I'll let you know if it works.
RustyJake
08-21-2005, 05:25 PM
Thanks, I'm tending to think more that it's a Stratus.
I had thought the thing in the back window was a car seat as well. But what it's actually a holder for the letter that they use to indicate the level of a new driver behind the wheel. "L" for learner, "N" for new driver, all part of a graduated licensing program here. New drivers are labelled for all to see.
The video has a clear shot of the woman getting out of her car. But there's nothing to identify who she actually is. The video just never gets a clear shot of the license plate. I've tried looking at all different angles. There looks to be a passenger in the vehicle as well. But they never get out of the car to help. I'm thinking either an elderly person or child in the other seat. But tend to think elderly seeing you can make them out with the seat belt on. They were parked in the pharmacy parkins spot so we'll take the video in to see if he can identify her.
They tried to blow it up on the video screen from the original , but to no avail. The surveilance camera just doesn't take clear enough pictures. I'm sure there's some form of software out there that would be able to clear it up, but it wouldn't be something that would be bought off the shelf.
If I get a place to upload the video to I'll post a link to it.
TinyUFB
08-21-2005, 08:56 PM
If you cant find any one that can analyze that film, let me know. I have a niece in NYC that does a lot of that stuff, I can send it to her to work on. It would take her only a couple minutes to determine if the plate can be read.
Tiny
RustyJake
08-21-2005, 09:24 PM
If you cant find any one that can analyze that film, let me know. I have a niece in NYC that does a lot of that stuff, I can send it to her to work on. It would take her only a couple minutes to determine if the plate can be read.
Tiny
thanks, I may take you up on that if I can't find someone locally to do it. I'd also have to figure out how to compress it to send it. Damn file is too big.
Wild Coyote
08-22-2005, 09:08 AM
RJ, it may also be a Plymouth Breeze. Basically the same car as a dodge Stratus, just different make, but same car. I know this because my Uncle has one. You can narrow it down by the year, color, and make and model. If you ever get a plate, I may be able to help you out with that.
Rheopipo
08-22-2005, 09:27 AM
This reminds me of a song..... uuuuuuuuh uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh uh uh uh... .peopple do stuptid things.... with the hole lot empty she had to sitck it to the bike! amazing.
TinyUFB
08-22-2005, 09:47 AM
I can handle up to 10 Megs via email. If you can compress it to that I can receive it.
Galager
08-22-2005, 09:59 AM
Dodge Stratus, or a Plymouth Breeze.
RAZOR
08-22-2005, 10:30 AM
RJ, it may also be a Plymouth Breeze. Basically the same car as a dodge Stratus, just different make, but same car. I know this because my Uncle has one. You can narrow it down by the year, color, and make and model. If you ever get a plate, I may be able to help you out with that.
plymouth breeze it is.check out this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-1998-Plymouth-Breeze-Gas-Saver-Very-Nice_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6387QQitemZ4569277169QQrdZ1
notice:1-that the number of holes in the wheel cover is the same as the number of holes in the wheel covers of the culprits vehicle.
2-that the exhaust extendes out the same as the culprits vehicle.
3-the third brake light and the curvature of the top of the trunk is the same
as the culprits.
4-drivers front door says plymouth on the buttom panel,the culprite says somthing there.
5-the front and rear marker lens follow the same flow as the culprits.
THIS IS DETECTIVE RAZOR AND CRIME SCENE INVESTAGATOR SIGNING OFF.
hope you could find someway to get the lic-plate number.
Mr.Sinister
08-22-2005, 11:14 AM
If it was local find out how many white breezes with learner tags are on the island.
RustyJake
08-23-2005, 08:43 AM
Thanks to all. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack. The "plates" aren't visible and really no way of tracking it down (Sin, the plates on the vehicle aren't issued to new drivers, could be the parents car. The "N" wasn't in the rear window at the time).
I will keep my eyes open for all four door white breezes or stratus. Seems I do a turn around look at every white car I see now. I'm hoping to find her because besides any deductable, there's a $400 fine for leaving the scene. Just would love to rub some salt in it. But the ultimate would be to be sitting behind her car with the wife's back when she comes out.
Hopefully it'll happen. Thanks again to all!
TinyUFB
08-23-2005, 09:09 AM
I know there are a few of you out there that know cars. Anyone have a clue what type of car this is?? Also, anyone know of any video software for enhancing the picture to try and grab a plate number. The dickwad woman hit my wife's bike, knocked it over and didn't leave any contact info. All caught on video (14.5 MB so I can't upload it anywhere). Thanks in advance !!
Rusty - I sent the still photo to my niece in NYC. She came up with a couple possibilities on the License Plate Number. If you wish more information on this send me an email
TIny
RustyJake
08-23-2005, 03:34 PM
Rusty - I sent the still photo to my niece in NYC. She came up with a couple possibilities on the License Plate Number. If you wish more information on this send me an email
TIny
Sent you a PM here in the forum. I'll have to wait till I get home from work for emailing.
Thanks!
RustyJake
08-24-2005, 09:41 AM
Here's a link to the video, it'll be there for 7 days... http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U77008131VN33KOD2P124SCJ3 (LARGE file for anyone on dial up!)
TinyUFB
08-24-2005, 12:37 PM
Got it and already sent to NY. Keeping my fingers and toes (all 30 of them) crossed that she can work some magic and come up with a result.
Tiny
croach1
08-24-2005, 01:55 PM
Did everyone else get pissed watching that video or do I just get mad to easily?
RustyJake
08-24-2005, 02:07 PM
Did everyone else get pissed watching that video or do I just get mad to easily?
Oh no, you aren't alone!! LOL, but I tend to let things get to me.
Thanks again TinyUFB!
TinyUFB
08-24-2005, 02:08 PM
Did everyone else get pissed watching that video or do I just get mad to easily?
I hate it when they do that kind of shit. I just wish that damn camera was not so close to the exit. The natural daylight pouring in makes is that much harder to view the details.
Tiny
Shadow
08-24-2005, 04:53 PM
WHAT A BITCH!!!!!
She even looked at the damn thing and knew there was damage.
She tried to pick it up and dropped it again! OMFG!!!!!
I hope you nail her ass!
Hit and run with a side of stupidity!
RustyJake
08-26-2005, 09:21 PM
Just got the insurance estimate back..........$2587.51
$500 deductable though.....pisses me off seeing we have the video. I found a forensic video firm on the web, had an estimate of 1.5-2 hours at $150 (US)/hour to enhance the video.........damn insurance adjuster said it was a little steep. Well, for that I'll pay the damn $500 we'll see how cheap the forensic is then! I just don't get them.
Okay, done ranting.
SmokeShowin
08-27-2005, 01:59 PM
Sorry to hear about the damage to the bike Rusty. Glad Tiny is trying to help with the video. I was going to suggest seeing if the police could help with it. We had a robbery here a few months ago and they sent the video of the getaway van to a college that has a forensics department. You might want to see if there is a college or university that can help you out. I would think that they would do it for nothing as it could be used as a training tool. Good luck.
They have a computer forensics department at the University of Rhode Island. You might want to contact the professor and se if maybe they can help you out.
Hree's the link, his email is at the bottom of the page. http://homepage.cs.uri.edu/faculty/wolfe/cf/
RustyJake
08-27-2005, 04:22 PM
Thanks I sent an email off to them to see. It never hurts to try, the worst they could say is no.
Police here are useless (RCMP), if it requires more paperwork they won't do it. If I do all the work and hand them a plate number, chances are they won't even press charges. But I'll be a thorn in their side until they do.
TinyUFB
08-28-2005, 10:42 PM
No word back yet from my niece, though she said it may take a week or so based on her schedule. But my Chief Engineer down in Texas has sent it out to three of his friends who have experience in this as well. He is a PE who has made a lot of court appearences as a professional witness. Over time he has made a lot of good friends with other 'professionals' Between her and them something should develop.
SmokeShowin also has an excellent idea in contacting a local college or university. We have used UN many times. Usually they are eager to help, as this offers their students hands on experience. I would definitely give them a try as well. Trick is getting it done without having to pay for it, but the schools will usually do it for nothing. Sometimes they will charge a Company a small amount, but that is to be expected. In your case, I bet they will say yes and do it for nothing.
The more people who work on it the better off you will be, especially if you get two or more agreeing on the same results !!!
Tiny
TinyUFB
08-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Some one over here brought up a good point I missed. If the University turns it down, try the community colleges.
RustyJake
08-29-2005, 08:35 AM
Thanks again, I'll definitely try the local community college here. Just have to wait until they are back in from the summer off.
TinyUFB
09-07-2005, 11:25 AM
No news yet Jake. I guess my sources are having trouble nailing down a clear view, but they have not given up yet. Hopefully I will hear something later in the week or early next week.
Tiny
RustyJake
09-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Thanks again. I'm hoping the police have something for us soon. They were contacted by a woman at the pharmacy after my wife showed her the video. But they've been "too busy" to follow up on it. They won't even take any information from us about a strange call we had. Can't trace back the phone number or name to an address so we can drive by and see what type of car they have. Cops don't even want the name or number. Just more paperwork for them.
SmokeShowin
09-07-2005, 08:35 PM
Too bad you couldn't hit *69 like we can down here. If you hit that after a call, it gives you the phone # call came from. From there you could go to www.anywho.com (http://www.anywho.com) and put the number in to get an address.
RustyJake
09-07-2005, 10:52 PM
Call display showed the name D. McQuinn and a phone number 250-752-2453. Definitely tried 411.ca for a reverse look up. But for that number they have no listing. Haven't found any online service that can provide an address. Cops didn't even want the name or phone number. Can't be bothered to even check to see what type of car is insured to them or drive by and see what type of car is in their drive way. And without me having a way to access an address, I can't do anything.
Wild Coyote
09-08-2005, 07:10 AM
What the hell do they do there, just sit around eating donuts with a thumb up their ass!!!! That pisses me off! Do your fucking job! They make all of us in the profession look lazy. Dumbasses! What department is it? I think I need to make a phone call!
RustyJake
09-08-2005, 08:29 AM
I don't consider them the 'real police'. It's the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police). But it's all we have in the area. They tend to have attitudes and are lazy. The officer even had the nerve to say the woman at the pharmacy doesn't have to tell anything because of patient/client confidentiality. Bullshit, we're not asking what drugs she got, we're asking about a crime.
I'd drive by the place for them, hell we've done all of the work so far. But can't because of not being able to obtain an address.
Shadow
09-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Call display showed the name D. McQuinn and a phone number 250-752-2453. Definitely tried 411.ca for a reverse look up. But for that number they have no listing. Haven't found any online service that can provide an address. Cops didn't even want the name or phone number. Can't be bothered to even check to see what type of car is insured to them or drive by and see what type of car is in their drive way. And without me having a way to access an address, I can't do anything.I did a bit of searching, didn't come up with much, but maybe it can help.
I found Debra Mcquinn in St.Paul Alberta who works at TD Canada Trust.
I found that the phone number you listed is registered to a person living in Qualicum BC the carrier is Telus.
only a bit of info, maybe it will help with something you already have.
Good luck!! I am following this shit like a soap opera! I want to see the bitch nailed.
RustyJake
09-08-2005, 08:28 PM
Thanks Shadow. Definitely in the Qualicum area with the 752 phone number. I found a Dorine McQuinn as well just north of Qualicum, but it's a different exchange.
Sooner or later I'll figure it out!
RustyJake
09-08-2005, 10:54 PM
Seeing the other link is dead, I got the file small enough to have it uploaded on a free server: http://media.putfile.com/Hit-and-Run-web-copy
scott0120
09-08-2005, 11:45 PM
your looking at a pre 01 dodge stratus or a plymouth breeze i will do some photoshop work and see what i can do for you.
scott0120
09-10-2005, 08:51 PM
you anywhere near duncan BC i found a McQuinn there different number but got an address.
scott0120
09-10-2005, 09:03 PM
http://people.superpages.ca/wp/results.jsp?SRC=mytelus&PS=15&PI=1&STYPE=WS&WF=&WL=McQuinn&T=&S=BC&search=Find
Here is a list of 11 McQuinns in BC i thought maybe the number would be listed under a different name but no joy. Ill keep looking for you.
SmokeShowin
09-10-2005, 09:06 PM
I don't consider them the 'real police'. It's the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police). But it's all we have in the area. They tend to have attitudes and are lazy. The officer even had the nerve to say the woman at the pharmacy doesn't have to tell anything because of patient/client confidentiality. Bullshit, we're not asking what drugs she got, we're asking about a crime.
I'd drive by the place for them, hell we've done all of the work so far. But can't because of not being able to obtain an address.
That sucks. Sounds like they just want to collect their paycheck and reach retirement.
Hell when I'm doing dispatch at the PD, I've gone the extra mile or two to help people out. I figure we've got the resources to contact other PD's and such, so if we can help...
Plus it helps pass the time if you're bored. Hell, people laugh at me because I run the license plate of every car that pulls in the lot. They can laugh, but by doing that we've bagged plenty of people for warrants and such. I was working one day so I was running the plates of cars in the lot next door. Turned out one of their employees had arrest warrants. And I'm only an on-call dispatcher.
If NOK was here maybe he could help ya.
SmokeShowin
09-10-2005, 09:07 PM
http://people.superpages.ca/wp/results.jsp?SRC=mytelus&PS=15&PI=1&STYPE=WS&WF=&WL=McQuinn&T=&S=BC&search=Find
Here is a list of 11 McQuinns in BC i thought maybe the number would be listed under a different name but no joy. Ill keep looking for you.
Dude, love the avatar!
SmokeShowin
09-10-2005, 09:13 PM
Rusty,
I found that number in BC listed to
Paquette, John & Gail (http://findaperson.canada411.ca/10649/search/Alpha_Limit?search_id=20100240332805107699&sort=&alpha_limit=&lower=1&more_info=1&old_search_type=Reverse_Phone)
267 Buller Rd
Qualicum Beach, BC V9K 2B3
(250) 752-2543
Same number, different name. Maybe worth a try.
The same names and address came up on five different sites for that number.
RustyJake
09-10-2005, 11:59 PM
Thanks!! They'll get a 'drive by' from me tomorrow for sure!
I'll let you know if I find a white 4 door dodge in their driveway.
RustyJake
09-11-2005, 12:20 AM
Call display showed the name D. McQuinn and a phone number 250-752-2453........
Thanks SmokeShowin, but the number is a little off. What was weird, the number you gave is for parents of a friend of ours from Nanaimo. Kind of ironic.
I'll cancel the drive by!
SmokeShowin
09-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Thanks SmokeShowin, but the number is a little off. What was weird, the number you gave is for parents of a friend of ours from Nanaimo. Kind of ironic.
I'll cancel the drive by!
Oops! Sorry Rusty.:shame:
Wild Coyote
09-12-2005, 08:19 AM
once you get the full name, try www.zabasearch.com (http://www.zabasearch.com)
That will give you many possibilities, numbers, addresses, etc. It is very helpful when I'm skip tracing someone.
TinyUFB
09-12-2005, 09:20 AM
My first sources are not doing very well, but I do have one more source who has specialized programs designed for analyzing video film, frame by frame. They told me it works pretty good on detailing surveilance films.
I had them try to access that link you created to download the film, but it has expired. If you can re-create that link, they will see what they can do in quick order.
Tiny
SmokeShowin
09-12-2005, 06:16 PM
My first sources are not doing very well, but I do have one more source who has specialized programs designed for analyzing video film, frame by frame. They told me it works pretty good on detailing surveilance films.
I had them try to access that link you created to download the film, but it has expired. If you can re-create that link, they will see what they can do in quick order.
Tiny
He posted it on the previous page. Here ya go Tiny:
Seeing the other link is dead, I got the file small enough to have it uploaded on a free server: http://media.putfile.com/Hit-and-Run-web-copy
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RustyJake
09-12-2005, 08:28 PM
I had to compress and downsize the video quality to post it up on the free server. Works for viewing but I think getting anything from that would be difficult. I sent Tiny and email with a new link to the uploaded full version.
BTW, the woman at the pharmacy came to see my wife at work today, only to tell her she contacted the RCMP and no one has come to see her yet. She said she'd phone again. But you figure a witness shouldn't have to keep contacting the police to give their information.
TinyUFB
09-13-2005, 11:34 AM
We got it. Lets hope this one works out better.
TinyUFB
09-13-2005, 02:59 PM
Glenn:
I just thought of another potential source this morning and sent him the link as well. This is in addition to the other one who requested the link.
His response is below. If you can provide what he is looking for let me know and I will email you his email.
His advice might be worth exploring as well.
_----------
Blonde woman driver I see.
I've found if you can get a news reporter, TV especially, interested in a story of cops ignore citizens it often works wonders. That would be my first choice. You might have to do a bit of homework first to show this is the normal attitude of cops to hit and run without injuries to people. Then the reporter has an angle to work with other than just helping an individual you have cops not doing their job, here's an example.
I hacked the site to get a downloadable version of the movie but it is so compressed any fine detail that might have been in the original has been lost due to aggressive compression. Trying to enhance compressed files only enhances the compression artifacts creating fiction.
Something Hoagland (face and cities on Mars) does all the time with NASA's JPG images to "prove" his ideas.
If you could get me a copy of the original in raw (uncompressed) AVI format then there might be a chance by using Drizzle on it. Since the car is moving Drizzle (a technique invented to get 50% more resolution out of Pathfinder images and now built into most astro image enhancing software [even the free stuff]) I might be able to get a few digits of the number if the original resolution is up to it. Most cameras of this type are just used to see what is going on, not for ID purposes, so the video tape runs at a low res speed. Thus, the news media angle and getting the tape aired on TV, might be the most likely. At least the insurance company knows it isn't the biker's fault.
SmokeShowin
09-13-2005, 05:24 PM
Good idea from your friend Tiny. One of our local news channels has a segment called Eyewitnessnews Investigators. If this Lady gets put on TV it may just prompt her to come forward. If not, someone is bound to know who she is.
RustyJake
09-13-2005, 08:16 PM
Tiny, the link I sent you in the email is the full version of the video. It's the avi version which is about 14 MB in size. Not sure if that's the video he saw or not. If it is, that's all I have. The one on putfile.com is the compressed file.
I'll definitely look at the media side of things if we don't get satisfaction from her soon. Dragging her heels isn't the word for it.
Let me know what video he was looking at though.
Not sure how I'd mail a copy of the video that I have. I uploaded the version to yousendit as I have it. No compression applied. It's supposed to keep the file in tact. I could upload a zipped version if he thinks that would help.
croach1
09-13-2005, 10:42 PM
You could burn it to a CD and overnight it to him.
TinyUFB
09-15-2005, 09:38 AM
No luck on the last attempt. They say the sunlight coming in is the main culprit. If you can get a copy of that film uncompressed, Rick can try his drizzle method, other than that, I am afraid we have exhausted all my sources with little to show for it. Sorry.
Tiny
RustyJake
09-15-2005, 10:20 PM
Many thanks to everyone on the site and to everyone outside the side that helped and did what they could (thanks a million Tiny for all of your extra effort with your friends outside the site).
Looks like it "may" be solved. The officer in charge of the case phoned tonight and said she has spoken to the lady in the video. She claims that she didn't know there was any damage to the bike. It looked okay to her so she just left. So the officer won't be charging her with hit and run because there was no malace or bad intent on her part. My thinking is the officer screwed up and didn't advise her of her rights before interviewing her on the phone of all places. As well as not wanting to do any extra paperwork that may be involved.
The officer won't even give my wife the woman's name, and wasn't able to give her the woman's plate number, that's how bad of a job she's doing on this. We told her we need the license number of the vehicle and the driver's license number of the driver of the vehicle. I'll ensure that her insurance company has a case number as well as a video of her actions in hopes that they will increase her insurance because of her being a bad risk.
I'll be sure to let everyone here know how it works out in the end. But thankfully it looks like this one will be put to bed.
Again, MANY thanks to all, it is truly a great community we have here with everyone that helps.
TinyUFB
09-15-2005, 10:51 PM
Whew! I am glad you are getting at least some results. I wish my sources could have done better.
Knowing insurance companies, if they think they can pass the bill onto someone else and get off from paying a claim, they will go after that ladies insurance company like rabid dogs.
I hope it works out that way, and your insurance company forces that cop to turn over the identity of that lady.
IF you have any good friends who are attorneys, a call from them usually will get the ball rolling in your direction, without costing you an arm and leg. If not, maybe there is a bike association that can help in that matter. I know the AMA has some reasonable attorney referrals over here, but I dont know if they do anything in your area.
This is a real problem throughout both Canada and the US.
Hit a car and they respond quickly. Hit a bike and they take the attitude that you were taking a risk to begin with, and you dont deserve to be treated with the same justice as 4 wheels get.
Oh well, I wish you the best of luck.
Tiny
:happy:
RAZOR
09-16-2005, 09:12 AM
. She claims that she didn't know there was any damage to the bike. It looked okay to her so she just left. So the officer won't be charging her with hit and run because there was no malace or bad intent on her part. My thinking is the officer screwed up and didn't advise her of her rights before interviewing her on the phone of all places. As well as not wanting to do any extra paperwork that may be involved. .
WHAT---WHAT??? will not be chargeing her with hit and run cuz there was no malace
or bad intent,if i remember correctly you said she got out of her vehicle and
looked at the bike and did'nt even try to pick it back up and drove off.
to me that is bad intent right there and should be charged with hit and run..
esp because she didnt even make any effort to leave a note or nothing....
that has hit and run written all over it.
as for the officer what a fucking idiot.couldnt even get his lazy ass of his chair
and away from his donuts to go and interview this lady is person,"which" i thought
that is the way its suppose to be done"legally" not over the fucking phone for christ sake...
ok i'm done...sorry bro you have the same luck as i do sometimes...glad to find out
that its getting somwhere tho...
SmokeShowin
09-16-2005, 05:37 PM
Ok not hit and run, how about leaving the scene of an accident? Some cops really tick me off.
RAZOR
09-16-2005, 05:50 PM
Ok not hit and run, how about leaving the scene of an accident? Some cops really tick me off.
lazy bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!
RustyJake
09-17-2005, 09:47 AM
I've been doing a little research on the criminal code and on the highway traffic act. As for the officer not giving us her information, she is in direct violation of the highway traffic act section 28, subsection 68 paragraph 10. Section 28, subsection 67 deals with the laws governining what the obligation is of a person involved in an accident, most of those this person is in violation of. As for the hit and run in the criminal code, section 252 deals directly with this and does not state anything about malice intent. Just an intent to evaid civil or criminal charges. Not leaving a name to me is trying to get away with something.
To claim she didn't think there was damage to the bike, well here it only takes $600 on a motorcycle and the law states it MUST be reported to the police. She has no idea if the bike was damaged and then to not leave a note and allow my wife to drive it home without any knowledge of the accident put my wife's life at risk. The officer in her own words stated that she can't give us her contact information because it's a hit and run and there is a privacy act that protects the accused. Well, she's stated she's not charging her with hit and run so there is no reason the information.
I know, it may seem a little extreme, but I know if it were the other way around I'd be charged. This officer will see that I'm not about to sit back and accept what she says because she's the law. She needs some retraining.
highway traffic act of BC:
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/stat/M/96318_00.htm
Criminal code (section 252): http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/text.html
TinyUFB
09-17-2005, 10:09 AM
Tiny, the link I sent you in the email is the full version of the video. It's the avi version which is about 14 MB in size. Not sure if that's the video he saw or not. If it is, that's all I have. The one on putfile.com is the compressed file.
I'll definitely look at the media side of things if we don't get satisfaction from her soon. Dragging her heels isn't the word for it.
Let me know what video he was looking at though. .
Rusty
Sorry !!!!
Somehow I missed the post above and only just read it this morning. I'm at home now and am not sure if I still have that email link you mentioned. In any case you can send it directly to Rick at wa0cky@arvig.net . He is big in astro digital photography. Just mention who you are and my name as well. I will send him a note as well.
Tiny
SmokeShowin
09-17-2005, 01:35 PM
I've been doing a little research on the criminal code and on the highway traffic act. As for the officer not giving us her information, she is in direct violation of the highway traffic act section 28, subsection 68 paragraph 10. Section 28, subsection 67 deals with the laws governining what the obligation is of a person involved in an accident, most of those this person is in violation of. As for the hit and run in the criminal code, section 252 deals directly with this and does not state anything about malice intent. Just an intent to evaid civil or criminal charges. Not leaving a name to me is trying to get away with something.
To claim she didn't think there was damage to the bike, well here it only takes $600 on a motorcycle and the law states it MUST be reported to the police. She has no idea if the bike was damaged and then to not leave a note and allow my wife to drive it home without any knowledge of the accident put my wife's life at risk. The officer in her own words stated that she can't give us her contact information because it's a hit and run and there is a privacy act that protects the accused. Well, she's stated she's not charging her with hit and run so there is no reason the information.
I know, it may seem a little extreme, but I know if it were the other way around I'd be charged. This officer will see that I'm not about to sit back and accept what she says because she's the law. She needs some retraining.
highway traffic act of BC:
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/stat/M/96318_00.htm
Criminal code (section 252): http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/text.html
Get her good Rusty. What's right is right!
Shadow
09-18-2005, 06:34 PM
I am so happy to see someone take a stand for what is right. Most people would just say, well um, the cops said.... bla bla bla...
I am really anxious to see how this comes out!
If you can nail this bitch, I will come up to Vancouver Island and personally buy you a beer!!
Keep us informed..
RustyJake
09-19-2005, 08:29 PM
Well, we'll get her information now. She won't be charged with hit and run because that's a criminal offense. She will charge her with leave the scene which will entail a fine and her insurance and drivers license will go up.
I actually think I drove behind her tonight, so I wrote down the license number. I'll see if I'm right when we get the info.
Thanks again to all the help and support on here. It was awsome to get that from this community of people.
SmokeShowin
09-19-2005, 08:55 PM
Well, we'll get her information now. She won't be charged with hit and run because that's a criminal offense. She will charge her with leave the scene which will entail a fine and her insurance and drivers license will go up.
I actually think I drove behind her tonight, so I wrote down the license number. I'll see if I'm right when we get the info.
Thanks again to all the help and support on here. It was awsome to get that from this community of people.
Glad to hear it Rusty. :thumsup:
Wish we could have done more.
RustyJake
09-20-2005, 10:52 PM
seeing the title of this thread asked about the type of car..........1997 Plymouth Breeze.
Tiny, there was a "W" in the license, just not the first letter. Got the info in a report today. Now we'll follow up in a month to make sure that she was served a summons for leave the scene.
TinyUFB
09-21-2005, 11:00 AM
seeing the title of this thread asked about the type of car..........1997 Plymouth Breeze.
Tiny, there was a "W" in the license, just not the first letter. Got the info in a report today. Now we'll follow up in a month to make sure that she was served a summons for leave the scene.
CHALK ONE UP FOR THE GOOD GUYS!
:happy:
Shadow
09-21-2005, 11:07 AM
seeing the title of this thread asked about the type of car..........1997 Plymouth Breeze.
Tiny, there was a "W" in the license, just not the first letter. Got the info in a report today. Now we'll follow up in a month to make sure that she was served a summons for leave the scene.I am serious about that beer!
You make her pay and I am on my way!
Keep us posted. :cheers:
RustyJake
09-21-2005, 09:44 PM
I am serious about that beer!
You make her pay and I am on my way!
Keep us posted. :cheers:
We'll find out in about a month when we follow up with the officer to make sure she followed through with the charges. I believe the fine is $400.00 plus points on your license. So insurance and drivers licensw will both be effected for a few years to come.
But her insurance will cover the cost of repairing the bike so we're not out the $500 deductable anymore.
I look forward to riding with you again Shadow. If you are ever heading up this way, or you and the wife are looking for a get away up north....just say the word.
mrpicolas
09-29-2005, 06:23 PM
well another possibility is that it is a white grand am if you look at the side profile it has the roof line and a and b pillar profile of one not sure about the rear though cars change so much anymore sorry didnt look at the date my bad day late and a dollars shoort go figure.
Glad to here it worked out for you
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