Is a hyper charger worth it?

[logan176]

I used to have an 89 Suzuki Katana 600. After one too many rides with my back and wrists killing me, I decided to go with an 02 SS750. The ride is so much more comfortable and I'm having fun with the customizing (I'll try to get some pics) but I do miss the power.

I'm thinking about getting a hyper charger next summer. I have read some of the threads and I know guys have them on their SS750s. Is this mod worth it? Do you feel any difference in power? I read in Cycle World that the Tornado Intake doesn't really yield much in the way of results...I hope the same is not true for the hyper charger.

Thanks guys

[cowboy]

I have a bootleg intake and hard krome pipes it makes a big diffrence but its not going to pull like your Katana.

[AirportFF]

It's not a question of hypercharger, tornado, or any other air intake mod. As well as pipes.

You will need to rejet the carbs

Check my other post to you in the holesaw mod section. If you removed the VH exhaust and are putting the stock on. You may have to jet for the stock exhaust, provided it was jetted for the V & H.

[logan176]

Thanks Airport. I read the other post and I think I'll be playing around with two things. One will be to do the holesaw mod on my stock pipes and the other is to make a thumbnail turnable baffle for the vance and hines. I don't have a dino or a meter to check the decibel level, but I think I'll go super old school and just grab a tape recorder and my own two ears. I'll get back to everyone on what I find out.

Also, you mentioned jetting the carbs before. I bought my shadow from a guy in Rhode Island (I'm in NY) and I don't think I have his # anymore. From talking to him and looking at his other bikes, I got the impression that he took care of them. I think he jetted the carbs for the V&H but I'm not sure. How would I know if they were jetted or not? When I swapped the V&H for my stock pipes I did not notice any difference in how smooth the bike runs.

[Mr.Sinister]

IF you run aftermarket pipes and open up the intake and put in a stage 3 jet kit you will have a very different bike . It will never pull like the Katana . I rode my buddie"s ACE the other day . It is stock . And I let him ride my Spirit . Drag pipes , Beans Box mod , Stage 3 . The main difference is 2nd and 3rd gears . Mine has a punch . You feel it kick in when you shift . It jumps when you hit it hard . I may be running 50 horse . I am only guessing I have not dyno'ed it . Stock is about 40 . I have a big increase in those gears . I am going to install some baffles and see what happens in first with more back pressure .

[Mr.Sinister]

See if the fuel air mix screw covers are missing .

[SmokeShowin]

I bought my shadow from a guy in Rhode Island (I'm in NY) and I don't think I have his # anymore.

Logan, PM me with his name if you've got it. I live in Mass. just over RI border, might be able to hook you up with a phone #.

[logan176]

I appreciate the help with locating the phone number of the guy I bought the bike from. I actually found the ebay payment receipt and I'm going to try and take that route. I'm sure I can find his number that way.

Hey Mr. Sinister, when you wrote "open up the air box" how do you mean? Do you mean modifying the airbox like the bean box mod?

[AirportFF]

Also, you mentioned jetting the carbs before. I bought my shadow from a guy in Rhode Island (I'm in NY) and I don't think I have his # anymore. From talking to him and looking at his other bikes, I got the impression that he took care of them. I think he jetted the carbs for the V&H but I'm not sure. How would I know if they were jetted or not? When I swapped the V&H for my stock pipes I did not notice any difference in how smooth the bike runs.


Best bet is to find the guys number and ask him. Hopefully someone that has jetted there bike will jump in here. Mine is jetted, but is a completely different animal from a spirit. I did do the hole saw mod on Susan's bike and she still has stock jets and air intake. There are no carb adjustments needed for the holesaw mod with stock intake.

You first need to find out what's in your bike. If it was jetted for the V&H, they are more than likely bigger jets than stock. If anything you'll be running rich (I think) that's not as bad as running lean.

But before you do any intake mods, do the research first to find out what you're in for.

[AirportFF]

See if the fuel air mix screw covers are missing .


fuck, I never thought of that.....DUH

[AirportFF]

(I'm in NY).


Where in NY?

[logan176]

Fishkill, NY...just south of Poughkeepsie and about 1 hour north of NYC.

[Machinehead]

I'm thinking about getting a hyper charger next summer... Is this mod worth it? Do you feel any difference in power?....

Would you install ramair induction on an automobile engine without performing the engine modifications that warranted it? ....and then ride...without watching the weather channel?

Basically (IMHO) these products are eye candy. While they look very nice and may actually work in some applications, if you're looking to gain even a tad bit of low/mid or top end I'd suggest locating someone that has this puppy installed, pull up beside them and hit green to red.

If ANY hp/tq is gained you'll prolly have to tweak all fuel circuits several times to achieve it (forced air will change the dynamics of which the stock engine was not designed for).

I'm not putting down the Co. that produces the product nor your idea of installing it....but after seeing it used real time and reading posts on the net I suggest you get input from those that have been there done that before launching this mod.


GL

[logan176]

Okay guys, I checked for jetting and the cover over the fuel air mix screw is not there. So I'm going to guess to say that the bike was jetted. When carbs are jetted, is this screw the only thing adjusted or is there more to it? Also, I have been reading other threads that say that the fuel air mix screw was turn any given number of times. How do I know how many times mine has been turned?

[Machinehead]

How do I know how many times mine has been turned?


Are the plugs drilled or removed?

It's very easy to watch the revolutions of the screwdiver used for tuning. If not, you can wrap the shank of a small screwdriver with tape and mark it with a dot. You do not need mechanical skills to count the revolutions in/out. In most situations 3-3.5 turns OUT is max.

[navillustoo]

Just because the plugs covering the idle mixture screws are missing is no REAL proof that the carbs were rejetted. Many will remove the plugs to adjust the screws when they've installed aftermarket exhausts to eliminate the popping on deceleration, but don't do the rejet. The only way to be 100% positive that the carbs were rejetted, is to remove them and look at the needles. Stock needles have only one groove for the retaining clip, while Dynojet needles have anywhere from 4 to 6 grooves.

Brian

[logan176]

I can handle the whole screwdriver turning but taking off the carbs is a bit too technical for me at this point. I have a friend that is pretty good at this stuff. Over time I am trying to learn this stuff though.

And Machinehead, the plugs are removed...hopefully the pic that I attached will work.

[AirportFF]

Fishkill, NY...just south of Poughkeepsie and about 1 hour north of NYC.

I was born and raised in Newburgh. Just moved out to Milford, Pa about 2 months ago. I work at Stewart Airport

[logan176]

I took my motorcycle training course at Stewart...one of the best investments I ever made.

[weaselbob74]

With the hypercharger do you have to worry about water getting in the intake, same with the tornado? And would there be any advantage to getting the hypercharger over doing the airbox mod, besides the obvious bad ass look (meaning powerwise)?

[jrod1970]

With the hypercharger do you have to worry about water getting in the intake, same with the tornado? And would there be any advantage to getting the hypercharger over doing the airbox mod, besides the obvious bad ass look (meaning powerwise)?if you ride in the rain you will get water in the airbox:grin3:and yes you get a hp increase